Andreas Moritz is some schmuck offering horrific medical advice about cancer. I’ve never heard so many wrong things about science outside the realm of creationism.
What makes 50% of the American population so prone to developing cancer, when the other half has no risk at all? Blaming the genes for that is but an excuse to cover up ignorance of the real causes. Besides, any good genetic researcher would tell you that such a belief is void of any logic and outright unscientific (as explained in the book).
Crackpot. He may want to define “good” in his description of genetic researchers. It sounds like he is confusing it with “horrible”. Cancer risk is often identified in three primary ways. In no order, there is environment. A smoker or frequent tanner have higher risk because they have carcinogens entering their bodies at higher rates than other people. Then there is familial history. A person with a history of cancer in the family needs to be more vigilant in seeking regular check-ups. This is based on nothing but genetics. Finally, oncologists specifically look at genes to determine whether or not someone has a high risk. BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes indicate a higher risk of cancer if inherited with mutations. This is common among Ashkenazi Jews. This is basically a repeat of point 2. But it’s good to repeat here because, well, cancer is caused by mutations in genes which cause unregulated cell growth which prevents apoptosis or prevents DNA repair.
Cancer has always been an extremely rare illness, except in industrialized nations during the past 40-50 years. Human genes have not significantly changed for thousands of years. Why would they change so drastically now, and suddenly decide to kill scores of people? The answer to this question is amazingly simple: Damaged or faulty genes do not kill anyone. Cancer does not kill a person afflicted with it! What kills a cancer patient is not the tumor, but the numerous reasons behind cell mutation and tumor growth. These root causes should be the focus of every cancer treatment, yet most oncologists typically ignore them. Constant conflicts, guilt and shame, for example, can easily paralyze the body’s most basic functions, and lead to the growth of a cancerous tumor.
Christ. Cancer really hasn’t been that rare throughout human history, but it is more common today. The reasons, however, are not because people are negative nancies. People live longer, are exposed to more carcinogens, and we just plain detect cancer more often than past generations could.
Copying errors are at root here. Moritz is claiming something which is bogus and unevidenced. He is saying a huge swath of the population dies because they are guilty. His ‘evidence’ seems to be anecdotal experience and personal perception. This guy is dangerous, if anything.
If cancer deaths were purely related to one’s emotional state, then it follows that people in Japan, France, and the U.S. must be more chipper than the rest of the world. No, it certainly isn’t about the availability of medical treatment. These people are just happy.
Cancer patients typically suffer from lack of self-respect or worthiness, and often have what I call an “unfinished business” in their life. Cancer can actually be a way of revealing the source of such inner conflict. Furthermore, cancer can help them come to terms with such a conflict, and even heal it altogether. The way to take out weeds is to pull them out along with their roots. This is how we must treat cancer; otherwise, it may recur eventually.
So I guess cancer is a good thing now. Quick! We’ve got to tell the hospitals. We need psychiatrists, not oncologists!
Oh, and children who have faulty genes that cause cancer? Nah. They just don’t have any self-respect. That’s common of children, right?
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This is amazing. Does Moritz realize that 30% of all cancer deaths are due to smoking (or inhaling second hand smoke)? He must think smokers are negative nancies, too. It’s a good thing they’re getting cancer. Otherwise, they’d never find out what was spiritually wrong. I mean, why do we feel so off-put by the idea of cancer? It’s clearly just a method of discovering our innerselves. Or it’s a horrible disease that is caused by a copying error in one cell which is able, through many complex mechanisms, to replicate without ‘fear’ of death while avoiding the attacks of the immune system. I don’t know. I only have empirical evidence to back up my claims.
P.s. This guy is an awful writer, too.
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Michael,
I can only assume you must have had a really bad day when you lashed out at me with such strong words as stupid, schmuck, crackpot, Christ, and dangerous. For a student of science, your emotion-driven arguments don’t really make you very convincing, but rather reflect your anger and unhappiness that obviously cause you to put down those who have a different opinion about things than you have. My well-intended advice to you is to speak your truth, but say it in a friendly tone. You will find that this will earn you a lot more respect and will also help you being a lot less angry. Your anger doesn’t hurt me, it only hurts you.
With regard to the points you have raised, you obviously passed judgment before you studied the matter at hand. If you had actually read my book, Cancer is Not a Disease, It’s a Survival Mechanism, (and Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation), instead of just an article about it, you would have noticed that my arguments are well supported by scientific evidence. I encourage you to read the book with an open mind and then draw your conclusions.
You said this: “A smoker or frequent tanner have higher risk because they have carcinogens entering their bodies at higher rates than other people. Then there is familial history. A person with a history of cancer in the family needs to be more vigilant in seeking regular check-ups. This is based on nothing but genetics.”
You may not be aware of the numerous studies that clearly show most cancers are preventable and, thus, have nothing to do with genetics. For example, new research conducted at the Creighton University School of Medicine in Nebraska has revealed that supplementing with vitamin D and calcium can reduce your risk of cancer by an astonishing 77 percent. This includes breast cancer, colon cancer, skin cancer and other forms of cancer. This research provides strong new evidence that vitamin D is the single most effective medicine against cancer, far outpacing the benefits of any cancer drug known to modern science.
Mind you, over 85% of Americans are now vitamin D deficient. To blame genes or familial history for causing cancer, instead of lack of sun exposure which is needed to make vitamin D, or poor diet, smoking, lifestyle, lack of sleep, is therefore unsubstantiated and outright misleading. A recent study (Feb 2009) by the National Institute of Cancer on 550,000 subjects has shown that heavy meat consumption increases the risk of dying form all causes, including cancer, by 20%. How many people are heavy meat eaters in this country? If you do the math you will find that genes are very little impact in cancer statistics, compared with other causes. What people “inherit” are a poor diet and detrimental lifestyle, not just genes.
Trans fatty acids alone cause numerous cancers. Vaccines contain large amounts of carcinogens, such as formaldehyde. Most pesticides are carcinogens, too. Medications oftne suppress the immune system, which is another leading causeo f cancer. Radaition from mammograms and CAT scans are now responsible for 50% of all cancers, killing 3 million people world wide, as documented by the World Health Organization. One mammogram equals a mimumum of 400 chest x-Rays. And there are now studies to prove wireless devices, sucha as clel phone, cause DNA damage. Radiation is a leading cuase of cancer. Genes have nothing to do with that either, except x-rays damage genes and cause them mutate. These are clearly environmental factors.
The cell environment that accumulates the toxic waste from the environment becomes a cess pool of toxins in which normal cell activity becomes impossible. Environment has everything to do with cancer. Genetic mutation is a response to, not a cause of, cell damage. Again, if you read the book, you would be aware of the vast body of scientific research that supports all the arguments I have made.
I am sorry for the people you have put off by your accusations, and thus prevented to find a better way the heal their cancers than what is currently offered by conventional medicine. But I also feel sorry for you because what you have done makes you an even more angry person than you were before.
I certainly wish you well on your path of self discovery. If you ever get to as many cancer patients in your life as I have (close to 8,000), you will find a lot more compassion, humility, and love in your heart than you are now. I encourage you to go this route, it’s truly worthy. When I was your age, I was fanatical, too, and I thought I knew it all. It’s easy to judge others, and not so easy to see their potential. Dealing with terminally ill people for 37 years changes you, I can attest to that. I was terminally ill myself when I was 12, and I died three times in this life. You get a different perspective about life when you go through that. I wouldn’t wish this unto you, but if it happens, it will be good for you.
You have a strong mind, and you are a smart man. Combine this with an open heart, and you will go a long away. By keeping you heart closed, you will be very lonely, sad and angry.
Be well!
Andreas Moritz
F you, buddy. You just said my dead mother lacked self-worth – you blamed her for her own death. Go to hell, you quack.
You are a danger to the community, you quack.
Mr. Moritz your lack of understanding of medical science is staggering.
I’m a fan of people getting information out and discussing ideas so we as a community can come to an understanding that is accurate. What I don’t support are fools that create controversy in areas established, especially when that controversy puts people in harms.
You are guilty not only of the latter but also of stomping upon the former when it shows the danger presented by yourself and others who share your ignorance.
There is no difference with your patronizing response than if you said, I will pray for you. Your sliminess does not work with us. We see you for what you are–a quack making money from people’s pain and misery.
As for emotions, you know nothing. They motivate us to act, and act we will. Harnessing our anger, we will continue to criticize the dickens out of you slim balls and not fall for your spiel of niceness. Just like a creationist, you think style is more important than substance and evidence. You have no substance, just a smarmy manner.
Your trickery does not work with us because we are equipped with baloney detection kits; we see through your slick facade, and what we see is disgusting which will fuel our focus to criticize your crapola each and every time we can.
How about you open your mind, and find out what a horrible horrible person you are? Really you are a quack, and nothing but a quack. A dangerous freaking quack who is profiting off of getting people to refuse treatment that can actually help them. If you ask me you never grew out of the fanatical know-it-all stage.
Those people’s blood is on your hands you QUACK.
You should be sued for every penny you’ve earned from the survivors of those who died needlessly to your arrogant con. You’re not even a quack, you’re just a cheap con-man.
So how much of your ideas about cancer and AIDS are based on what Merlin told you?
I’m just trying to understand here.
Check the bloggers rights on @EFF Electronic Freedom Foundation. They often take on cases of censorship of free speech. http://bit.ly/7flnAy
See also @EFF the protections for internet providers “Section 230″ http://bit.ly/aNJMuZ . I am not sure of the interpretation of the law, but I think that because the WordPress provider asked for an edit of the information, that this may mean that they are NOW open to claims of libel for the content since they took an active role in creating the content. Perhaps that is why WordPress took down the posting.
I sent an email to WordPress with the above information. They may need it for their own defense if Andreas Moritz decides to sue them.
very good reply
Hello Andreas, I’m so sorry you have these people coming down on you as hard as they are. I personally have found the information contained in your books to be highly inspiring. I wonder if they are members of the AMA or drug company employees. Your material saved me from a similar fate. My mother died from cancer in Aug 2010. During the 9 months of the end stages of her illness and the year after her death, I became convinced that I had cancer as well. I did mentally “create” the disease in myself. Of course the emotional eating, lack of exercise, and other lifestyle choices were not helping either. I first read the 6 pages online on a holistic health website. This changed my mind about my “death sentence”. I ordered your book and have put several of your suggestions into practice. Its funny how people can have such a horrible opinion on something they haven’t even taken the time to completely read and research theymselves. You make suggestions about what we eat and how it reacts in our body based on University and Hospital reports. You talk about stress and how it creates hormones that are detremental to our systems. And what is wrong with Chanting? Don’t knock it till you try it. Please don’t let these people keep you from continuing to do your work. You have saved my life because of it and I will always be thankful.
Holly
Dear Mr Moritz
I’m so sorry for you, needing face such angry, negative people who has nothin buildng or creative to say than throwing bullies to a person who maybe has right. It is a sign of our time I guess and it is equally difficult to fight as it was 100 years ago when doctors thought the reached last boundary of medicine and nothing else is waiting to be discovered.
These users obviously think the same way. Maybe it is not time for them. Maybe their minds grew into this system of modern world so deeply that they can’t see their own suffer in it. Noone can blame them for it.
But when I read a user who is angry because you suggest that his/her mother COULDN’T die because of lack of self worth proves how little we know about other people and how much we think we know about them. IT IS NOT ATTACKING YOUR MOTHER, blaming her about anything. It is pointing that our minds are layerd deeply and in our coplicated, unnatural world we cannot be different. My own grandmother died of lung cancer and she was a wonderful, loving person. She loved everyone else but herself- giving, never taking. We loved her because she was wonderful. But I hate her for the fact that her own well good was always at the botton of the list. Does it mean that I’m a bad person? No, I have a courage to see the situation out of the box. Saying that person died because of sickness is bad for YOU because when it will happened to you, all you will do is NOTHING. Waiting for death, helpless, angry and frustrated. You will learn nothing, Al Roker.
what you bullying has nothing to do with science. learn educate yourself and take your own opinions THEN discuss with such people like Moritz. never heard about DNA changes according to outside contitions, environmental influences? that is because you THINK you speak for science. In the meanwhile, you suffer deseases that medicine is unable to cure. google dr. Bruce Lipto- real scientist, real MD- and listen what REAL scientist has to say about DNA. This is something your health care doesn’t want you to know- to keep their year income based on amount of sick people trated in hospitals NOT for amount of sick people succesfully cured.
I think there’s a misunderstanding. This addresses your first six paragraphs:
We both seem to agree that cancer is caused by environmental effects. I said this. I also pointed out familial cancers are genetically caused. I’m almost being redundant about that.
You point out a number of carcinogens which lead to cancer. I did not say anything to contradict these known causes. What I said was,
In other words, genetic changes are usually found in oncogenes or tumor suppressor genes. These changes lead to cancer.
The way I read your reply, it sounds like you think I’m claiming that these genetic changes are not often caused by outside factors. I’m not claiming that.
I am responding to your claim that cancer is caused by a splattering of emotional issues, such as “guilt and shame”. Furthermore, I’m responding to the fact that you think there is a purpose behind cancer, namely to bring inner conflicts to the surface to be resolved. No. It is a result of mutated cells which replicate uncontrollably. There is no purpose other than the mindless survival of those mutated cells.
That’s disconcerting.
Not even credible, even. If he saw 10 cancer patients (Latin=”sufferers”) per day (i’m estimating, assuming he sees others also), 50 weeks per year, he would have to do this non-stop for 20 years. Of course, for this kind of medicine he could easily do group sessions — better ROI.
Sorry about the math: 8000/10*5*50=3.2 years, which is possible if he saw 2500 different patients per year. I still call BS on that claim. I know a couple of oncologists. They only have a few critical patients, and a few more non-critical, and consults, etc., and each treatment regimen always takes more than one visit. My minor skin cancer removal took four.
Michael Hawkins is a mental midget he has no idea what is he talking about
Again, if you actually had read my book, and not just a few paragraph from an an article, you would have seen there is plenty of research to show that emotional stress is a huge factor behind cell mutation. There are literally hundreds of studies to prove I am not making it up. Even the simple classical studies of medical students undergoing medical exams, measuring Interleukin 2 and Interferon levels, found that such stress suppresses DNA production of these important drugs, especially when the students felt they performed poorly. Stress leads to an increase in cortisol and unbalanced levels of prolactin, which directly suppresses the immune system. A suppressed immune system has been shown to cause cell mutation. New Russian research shows that emotional states directly influence gene behavior. The German oncologist and Professor of medicine. Dr Hamer, studied 31,000 of his cancer patients and found that their cancers were preceded by emotional conflict or shock, such as a divorce, death in the family, and caused a lesion in a part of the brain that related to the part of the body which developed the tumor. Out of 7,000 of stage 4 terminal patients, 6,000 survived after he helped them heal their emotional conflicts. Stress is still the most powerful and undisputed cause of illness, including heart disease and cancer. How a person responds to conflict and stressful situations determines how severely the cells are impacted. If you took the time to study mind/body medicine, which is no longer outside the realm of science, you may change your mind about the points I have made in my book. It’s easy to call other people dangerous, but as always, when we point the finger at someone else, another finger points back at you. Good advice from an older man who has seen much in his life: When you are angry at someone else, you have the same issues, you just cannot see them in yourself. Your anger and frustration may be triggered by someone else, but it’s never about them. So learn from your anger and you will feel much better because of it.
Given that you wrote that article – and with length – I find it hard for you to fault me for taking cues from it. However, you can feel free to send me your book if you want me to read it so badly.
Sorry, sir, but emotional effects on the chemicals our bodies produce do not cause genetic cell mutations. They do, however, increase the likelihood that these mutated will not be disposed of properly by our bodies by our various immune systems. Only certain types of cell mutations can even lead to cancers, as the mutation has to be one that keeps the cell from committing apoptosis itself.
Of course cancers are caused by a variety of environmental factors – chemical carcinogens, which damage the genetic material. Some people’s genetics make them more likely, for a variety of reasons, to allow cancers to grow. And of course if your emotional well-being is low, this is another factor which affects immunoresponse, which can contribute to the allowance of cancer growth or a slower recovery.
However, negative emotions do not cause cell mutation, and do not cause cancer.
Now, if you have helped a lot of people gain some positive emotional state, and have helped them towards a proper nutrition, that is fine. But to make claims that proven cancer treatments, and proven causes of cancer are incorrect, is simply wrong. If you cause someone to forgo life-saving treatment and to rely entirely on your system of belief, you are wrong.
Believe me, I don’t always agree with medicine as practiced by some doctors, nor do I always agree with the pharmaceutical industry, but it certainly doesn’t mean I’ll forgo reality-based treatments and follow you and the other naturopaths, homeopaths, or whatever you may style yourself in particular. Yes, I’ve met some rather emotionally unhelpful doctors who could be less curt , but by and large, extended emotional support is not their job. You seek another professional, friends, family, whomever for that. While you get the medical help you need.
“Out of 7,000 of stage 4 terminal patients, 6,000 survived after [Hamer] helped them heal their emotional conflicts.”
This is unadulterated horseshit. Hamer should be incarcerated.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/346pp8
So how mush of this information is coming from King Arthur’s advisor?
Just tracking the source.
Michael,
An article can hardly cover the contents of a book that has 260 pages. I am not finding fault for you raising questions about valid points, provided you have researched and investigated the subject matter at hand. It is another matter entirely to call someone who has dedicated his entire life to help others regain their health a stupid and dangerous man without knowing anything about him or his work.
It is not my job to persuade anyone. I am certainly not trying to make you read my book. I provide information to those who are interested in it and I have no problem with those who are not.
I wish you well,
Andreas
Ooooh! 260 pages of your tripe versus years and years of medical evidence. Really, I wonder what is more convincing…
You claim that oncologists should waste their time focusing on the guilt and shame you claim – without merit – is the root cause of most cancers, especially those in recent years. That is dangerous advice.
Cancer can hit anybody. Having self-respect, a sense of worthiness, a lack of guilt, and little to no shame will not offer any protection against the disease. People with abnormal BRCA1 or BRCA2 genes do not get breast cancer some 80-90% of the time because they coincidentally also have a lot of “inner conflict”.
Dear Michael,
you obviously thing you are doing humanity a favor by saying all these things.If you only knew HOW MANY PEOPLE are affected by your bad words and continue their miserable life in sickness.Just be man enough to acknowledge Andreas when you find out how wrong you were and how badly you influenced people (especially those with little or no time to investigate things).You could read the entire bibliography of Andreas books and try to follow 1/10.000 of what he says.Then please share your EXPERIENCE and NOT JUST your VIEW on the matters.
In my opinion he’s intentions are pure and the practices in his books helped me live a happier,healthier and free life.
Kind regards
Nikos
P.S: I can not blame people with personal cancer experience having huge difficulty “digesting”what Andreas speaks about but yet again that doesn’t mean he’s wrong….Let’s hope the CERN experiment or other scientific efforts will give the “mathematical” proof soon enough of what older civiliizations knew with their intuition and practice for thousands of years.
Dear Michael,
your exchange with Andreas shows a lot of emotion and his replies lots
of informations: i certainly think the latter serves us more than getting into
a game of selfdefense.
Calling someone “stupid, dangerous” even a “schmuck” is not strong
and convincing: it only shows weakness.
Let’s move on and accept the things that work.
His book certainly helped my family: that’s all that counts.
All the best,
Gregor
Switzerland
Calling an egg an egg is hardly a sign of weakness. It’s a sign of some ability to perceive things as they really are (a rare ability perhaps).
Dear Gregor,
You are an idiot.
No one ever said bad, false information couldn’t have a placebo effect.
You’ve been had.
Oh, my! What a rude little schmuck causing such a needles storm, for what? Fame?
If Michael could put his fiery energies to helping instead of flaming, less people would suffer from debilitating diseases.
Bad propaganda is not necessarily a good thing, Michael. I felt hurt reading those rude comments about Andreas. …. my hope is that the people who do read your blog will also follow up reading the comments…and it will be clear to all.
Concern troll is concerned.
Concern troll is also inane.
It’s no coincidence that Moritz’s supporters are illiterate morons.
Moritz is giving you hack responses sprinkled in pseudo-kindness. It’s all he’s got since his ideas are pure hackery. He isn’t supported by science in any of his conclusions. His “theory” cannot explain the connection between certain carcinogens – especially tobacco smoke – and cancer rates. The reason is clear: the connection is causal. That’s well established. Is Moritz claiming that cigarette smokers have an especially prevalent rate of feeling guilty and shame versus the rest of us? Does he think that if everyone in the world began smoking cigarettes that cancer rates would remain the same? That would have to be the case to support his crackpot ideas.
Michael;
I kept reading your e-mail/letter exchange with Andreas and realized I couldn’t go any further… While I do respect your opinion and would like to see your side of the story, all I hear from you is insult – any reasonable psychiatrist will tell you that such angry attacking “technique” really is a manifestation of your own deep insecurity. I only get aggravated assault from your part while Andreas really tries to talk to you, and I can only admire his patience while responding to your insults with the most polite and civilized verses. I truly believe you have something to say but with the manner that you go about your writing you really leave an impression of a teenager who is not able to listen. Please DON”T INSULT. Especially if you haven’t even read his books (!!).
As for me, I have read a couple of his books, and while he is not the most eloquent writer in the world, he definitely has something to say, and his ideas helped me get out of a deep depression while none of the “conventional” methods had worked. A person very close to me was able to improve her health significantly only applying some of Moritz’s techniques of fasting and cleansing – she is a healthy person now with incredible amount of energy. At the same time, all I get from “conventional” doctors is a push to buy this or that drug to treat my symptoms – obviously a “deal” between the the modern health care system and pharmaceutical companies. Anyway, not to waste your time, but if you could be just a bit more civilized, I and many others would read your responses with more respect.
Andreas, thanks for your commentary.
Henrik Karapetyan, DMA
If you had made the effort of reading my books instead of just guessing what I wrote, you would have noticed the elaboration on the strong connection between carcinogens, such as formaldehyde, aluminum, and mercury in vaccines, or chemicals in cigarettes, the use of additives in foods, pesticides, etc. etc. and the occurrence of cancer. Your rhetoric questions are irrelevant, because I make no such statements, but to the contrary spend hundreds of pages in my books on such cause-effect relationships. On the other hand, the medical literature is overhelmingly supportive of the claim that 85% of all diseases are caused by stress, which is a purely an emotional response to a perceived threat, one that differs from person to person. The near-constant secretion of stress hormones is an undisputed casue of suppression of the immune system and must be considered in any approach to healing of cancer, which I have included in my book on cancer.
At some stage in your young life you will discover that being unkind to others causes illness, too. I certainly don’t wish this for you.
Be well!
Andreas
“I certainly don’t wish this for you.” Sure you do. That’s how shmucks like you make your living and you stated as much when you threatened to sue becuse it would affect your business. It is pure business isn’t it? Your affected “be well” is so transparently phony.
85%, Moritz? Really? Up until now I was just dismissing you as a silly, new age hack who genuinely believed this nonsense. Now it’s clear that you’re just a liar.
I’m so tired of this whiny little line of yours. I’ve ignored it to this point, but you harp on it so much, it’s impossible for me to not note it: You wrote the article I am citing. You make ridiculous claims.
I’m in shock – not because you’ve said yet another dumb, poorly reasoned thing, but because I’m sitting here wondering if I should write “Hahaha” or not. Whether or not I want to read your whining is the linchpin which stalls this decision.
You’re making the claim that most diseases (not just cancer anymore, wee!) are caused by stress and other silly things the evidence doesn’t support. If that’s true, then it’s up to you to explain the link between carcinogens and cancer. Furthermore, it’s up to you to explain childhood diseases. Do 85% of infants with diseases just have low self-esteem? Do children suffer from tremendous guilt? And how about the connection between countries with good medical care (i.e., not the crap you offer) and good cancer survival rates? If your “theory” is true, then it must just be a big coincidence that people in Japan survive cancer better than people in Algeria (see link above). How else do you explain the facts? Simply declaring that you spend time discussing relationships between carcinogens and cancer does not mean squat, especially when you follow up that statement by saying that 85% of disease is caused by stress. It has to be caused by stress to fit your predetermined conclusion. You’re nothing but a snake oil salesman.
But hell, I’m just an undergraduate (not a “medical intuitive”) tearing apart your patently silly claims. Go over to PZ Myers’ site in case you missed it.
Oh, you are an undergraduate! Now it makes sense… You need some life experience, my friend.. and less violent movies in your life. And maybe a romance – love is always helpful. Please don’t insult.
HK
I am sorry you didn’t care doing a little research of your won before making before making such unprofessional statements as your last one. Already when I was a student of medicine over 35 years ago, one of the world’s most famous and respected researchers, Dr. Hans Selye, proved that over 85% of all diseases were stress-related. Since then his research was confirmed by dozens of large double blind control studies.
I would not be this silly and embarrass myself to make statements of this kind unless they are based on undisputed evidence. However, I admit I didn’t give you the correct up-to-date percentage; stress now causes actually up to 90% of all diseases. Perhaps the most well-known medical institutions in this country, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, made this statement: “Up to 90 percent of the doctor visits in the USA may be triggered by a stress-related illness.” I know, you prefer to call this “new age hack, lies, and nonsense,” but for your own sake, and not to embarrass yourself any further, you may benefit from learning about psychosomatic illness (since it clearly makes up the vast majority of all diseases).
This article published by USA Today is based on factual research, and may give you some good ideas what stress does to the body (things that every medical student learns at medical school as I can attest to).
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/04/06/stress-part-eight.aspx
If you googled psychosomatic illness, you would find literally thousands of references to medical research about it. For instance, you find that the leading cause of heart disease is happiness rating and job satisfactions; in other words, stress at home and at work. There are now at least 20,000 symptoms of disease linked to stress (out of 44,000 now registered sysmtoms).
Stress is linked to the six leading causes of death – heart disease, cancer, lung ailments, accidents, cirrhosis of the liver, and suicide.
This is another good link related to research data on the subejct:
http://articles.directorym.com/Stress-a852965.html
I hope this will change your perspective about the subject, and not be so judgmental the next time, for your own sake.
Wishing you the best of health!
Andreas
Andreas, this can’t be stressed enough: Reading your book is not “research.” You are mischaracterizing what you’re asking people to do. You’re asking them to give you money for your piece of trash book. Whether they read it or not, it’s not “research.”
Let’s not pretend we’re all scientists here, mkay? You’re not.
You aren’t a professional. You are on equal footing with creationists, one of the main targets of this blog. Notice the complete lack of respect I give those people. Now go look up my responses to things that people like Steve Jones says. In those instances I want nothing more than to be respectful. And the reason? Because I respect those people. I don’t respect you trying to cash in on seriously ill people. Hell, almost every one of your FAQs is about how people can pay you or how they can buy your books (but never at discount…unless they buy at least 10).
The most I seem to be able to find on you is that you’re a medical intuitive. Where did you get your medical degree? I suspect a man like you would have no problem touting an actual degree if you had one. So where’d you attend school?
He is not on an equal footing with creationists!
They talk to god, he talks to Merlin.
Totally Different.
From Mr. Morizt’s site. “…given to me by the higher dimensional being Merlin.
Oh my… this guy (andreas) sure is a wacky clown eh?
Not that it’s needed, but here’s a little quote that Andreas uses to (presumably) help his case (it doesn’t):
“Up to 90 percent of the doctor visits in the USA may be triggered by a stress-related illness.”
Wow eh!? Sounds like the CDC agrees with this quack… but wait. Let’s look at that quote one more time… they’re talking about “doctor visits” not illnesses! I’m guessing that most “doctor visits” aren’t due to serious illness at all, but perhaps a sore throat or mild cough.
Oh yeah, and that’s before I even get to the “may be” qualifier.
So to sum it up: The CDC states that “up to” 90% of “doctor visits” in fact “may be” triggered by stress-related incidents.
Well that settles it then… give that man (andreas) a medical degree and call him “doctor”!
Lies.
Here’s Dr. Hans Selye’s landmark paper on stress. http://www.icnr.com/articles/thenatureofstress.html
Nowhere does he claim that stress causes 85% of all illnesses. In fact, he says, “Stress cannot and should not be avoided. Everybody is always under some degree of stress. Even while quietly asleep our heart must continue to beat, our lungs to breathe, and even our brain works in the form of dreams. Stress can be avoided only by dying. The statement “He is under stress” is just as meaningless as “He is running a temperature. ” What we actually refer to by means of such phrases is an excess of stress or of body temperature. ”
As for vaccines, Dr Moritz, shame on you for sowing groundless claims that they are carcinogenic. Show ANY peer-reviewed study linking vaccines to cancer! Your body produces more formaldyhyde through metabolism than is in the entire vaccine schedule, and you are exposed to more mercury and aluminum in the environment than from vaccines. And WHY would you look at childhood vaccines as a cause of cancers that typically strike in old age? DOn’t you think other factors in the intervening DECADES might play a greater role?
EDIT by Michael Hawkins: I never edit responses that come on my website (except for the occasional spelling error if I’m feeling generous), but Moritz posted a 9389 word response here. It added up to 17 pages, single-spaced. One gem of a line from it that I happened to read at the end said “All vaccines are poisonous and, as such, act like time bombs that will explode in due time.” That should give everyone an idea of the quackery this man practices. It should also give everyone an idea as to why I can’t leave so much crap up here. No one is going to read it and it takes forever just to scroll through/past it. If Moritz wishes to post it on his own site and put the corresponding link up here, he’s welcome to do that.
To MIchael:
On a different note, if you intent to write a response for me to see, you will be wasting your time. Write for your friends. I will no longer subscribe to this post or read what you write. Too many profanities for my taste, just like the title suggests. I still feel sorry that a young person like you is so filled with envy and blinded by rage.
Ha. “Envy.” The scientists envies the bottom-feeding quack? Quite unlikely.
Well, good. To all my friends: I only know one of you that responded, but I’m glad we’re all so buddy-buddy. I’ve never felt so close to two complete strangers (four if you count the guy who urged I be nicer and the woman who creatively used the same insult on me that I used in the opening post).
And to all my stranger-friends that come from search engines: I’m so glad this post so often shows up on the first page of results. This goes double for my stranger-friends from Google – I’m number 6 on their list. I’m glad I can help the struggle against anti-science nonsense – especially the nicely packaged kind. Oh, how envious I am of such things!
To my BFF, Michael Hawkins; Counteracting this shyster is important, and mockery is as valid a tool to expose scammers, as lies and misrepresentations are to these quacks.
Here’s hoping more potential Moritz marks get to read your postings on him.
Moritz, these claims that 85% of diseases are caused by stress and that stress is a contributing factor to cell mutations (thus leading to cancer), if properly researched, should have entire papers written about them.
Please point me to the papers supporting these two arguments. I want a full citation, including the (respectable) medical journal, what edition and what page number these claims show up at.
Also, a brief excerpt from the medical journal (that isn’t a knockdown argument that the article proceeds to /refute/.) is a bonus.
Andreas: “I will no longer subscribe to this post or read what you write.”
Run away! Run, run away!!
Nobody’s buying your BS here Andreas…
Uh, I am. It’s not BS to me because I have an open mind…it’s all worth taking into consideration when such crucial decisions must be made. It’s about mind, body, soul and spirit working in harmony…not just the so-called scientific body aspect.
And just because the guy has to charge money for his books, so what? Everyone has to make a living. And let’s not get into the obscene amounts of $$$$ the AMA accumulates not to mention the American Cancer Society and Big Pharma.
My guess is when undergraduate, Mr. Hawkins, does graduate, he’ll be looking for the highest slarting salary he can get.
Try a more non-judgemental approach to life as you start your journey.
Dear Michael,
It seems to me that you don’t publish postive messages about Andreas. My message a week ago was not published.
Do you have something personal against Andreas Moritz?
Have you actually been following Michael’s argument or are you showing your IQ?
Andreas helped me to understand medicine much better.
I’ve read a lot of stuff about mind body medicine and studies for over 20 years Krishnamurti. Andreas has a very good knowledge about all this.
Only with an holistic approach one is enable to see the root cause of illnesses.
Reading his books, he helped me to understand the origin of my gallstones which helped me to dissolve them.
He also helped me to understand the origin of a cyst and I could dissolve it.
Have a look on curezone and you see many other people as I’m.
Andreas has a good knowledge of ayurveda medicine and the most important of all, he is good person.
Read the messages at curezone and you’ll see.
There is not a root to all illness. That is a lie which the quacks peddle and for which you fell. Your ignorance about healing and maintaining health remains.
@Raimond: The plural of anecdote is NOT data.
I’ve seen that my message was not published because I indicated a domain (curezone) with the extension “dot” com. Without the extension “dot” com it works.
Michael,
Where can I find Andreas 17 paged response?
Best,
Marko
I didn’t save it as I have no intention of reading such nonsense, but if you click his name on his comment responses here, you can get his website and probably contact information.
Beware of anything he tries selling you.
Wow, woo woo wow. I made the mistake of going to Moritz’ site; Man, that is some major, unadulterated woo. I admit, I’ve only read about this kind of crap; To actually see the whole shebang on one site-hell, he’s selling rocks, for crissakes. And not very big ones at that. I live in the desert, and looking out my front door, it looks like I have a gold mine for a yard, going by how many “healing stones” are out there. If only I could find out the secret to infusing them with the obvious special healing properties that AM infuses his with. I won’t do it of course, because anyone can see how mine are not really healing stones, unlike the good doctor’s. Damn, I never catch a break…
In order to indulge in such dangerous fraudulent but profitable crimes, such as pretending that ordinary rocks can cure cancer, requires that you have you undergo a full conscience-ectomy.
I have recently finished the 5 day liver and GB flush highlighted in his excellent book and I passed ~150 stones varying from 20mm to 2-3 mm!!! It was painless and at no point did I feel pain what so ever.
I just wish there were more people like Moritz rather than the close minded “professionals” my late father saw when he had lung and brain cancer.
If I knew then what I know now I am sure I could have had a better chance of helping him survive.
I have removed fluoride from my diet, eat organic food as it grew and have spent a large sum removing my toxic Amalgam fillings. I’ve had my C1 bone aligned and now try to lead as stress free life as possible…
I feel great. Moritz keep up the great work…
John Shore
You are an idiot.
And an impoverished one at that. How much did all that unnecessary ‘treatment’ cost? What no eustress in your life? You know the aspect that the prime quack’s keeps pushing, the great wisdom of Selye? You better collect some eustress fast! You don’t want to go against what the quack recommends now do you?
It is heartbreaking to read what John wrote, just sickening what a creep Moritz is and quacks like him! Robbed and kept ignorant with no tools to prevent illness and to keep well. Just shocking and heartrending.
This *HAS* to be a Poe, right?
No-one could possibly be this sodding dim and be able to breathe without being reminded, let alone type on a keyboard.
This is the key to being a successful snake oil salesmen.
@Michael,
John’s money went to the dentist not to Andreas.
Well, I never claimed to be well versed in dentistry.
Of course, John had to buy Moritz’s snake oil (book) in order to get had in the first place. He’s wasted his money on faulty advice that has no medical basis.
Michael, I respect your opinion but believe me that I too resolved a lot of things (me and people around me) what he wrote.
There is more than traditional medicine. There is p.e. a placebo aand a nocebo effect. The mind has a big part in healing.
Traditional doctors don’t take this much serious. They takes the symptoms of the “illness” as the real cause.
With fear and negative emotions your possibility for health is much less then if things is seen in a wider perspective. Andreas has this knowledge.
About natural food:
Do you know why doctors don’t tell you to take natural products? Because the pharma industry can’t take copyright on natural food so they don’t propose it to the traditional doctors. Many things are resolvable in a diet change. I experienced it myself.
My wife was coughing 3 months last year and 3 months the year before, always in the winter months. Her doctor gave her 2 antibiotic cures last year and 2 the year before. Without any effect. I noted that in the same period she was coughing, she also had boiling gas in her stomach (and reflux) what irritated the bronchial tubes. I told her to take every evening a piece of fresh ginger. She resolved it. Andreas wrote many times about ginger in his books.
Her doctor did not even ask her about other aspects in her life. Who is here the snake oil doctor?
Change your doctor, he sounds like a poor one, but don’t abandon science based medicine just because you went to a mediocre practitioner.
Hm. So, I guess it’s important that she wait 3 months before ingesting the ginger. Prolly have to wait for that boiling gas to subside.
I am so moved by this negativity that i MUST comment. Why are Michael and his friends so adamantly trying to discredit Moritz?
We all know (or should know) that the real cracks and scammers are “traditional” medical doctors who are mainly in it for the profit (and dentists putting crap in our mouths and overcharging us to remove it.) Sadly my family has seen this over and over again only to get true relief from alternative medicine and natural cures.
MAYBE Moritz may not be totally correct in all that he says, but who is????? Noone is perfect….we’re all simply trying to find solutions to our ailments, trying to lead better, healthier lives. So stop the “fight-down”!!!! Before all the chemicals and fancy stuff they now want us to pump our bodies with, the natural remedies worked and for thoses of u in doubt, they STILL work
Sadly, there is no cure for stupid…please don’t reproduce.
sabi, evidence counts. It is how we know what is effective. Wishful thinking and lack of discerning thought does not cut it when human lives are at stake.
Moritz is a danger to anyone ignorant enough to fall for his dangerous scams.
People die unneccesarily as a direct result of delaying seeking real health care for non-trivial diseases.
Quacks like this kill people, after robbing them and their families blind.
Some of us think that this is a “bad thing”.
Perhaps you don’t?
Just to make things clear, “traditional doctors” from here on out should no longer mean the doctors that work in respectable hospitals but those that have been practicing techniques that rely on old wives’ tales and herbs and such passed down for generations on superstition and “it worked for me” testimonial tales. That, to me, is more “traditional” than working with MRIs, synthetic and laboratory-created medicines and the like. With that said….
Since the placebo effect is a well-documented medical phenomenon, every doctor worth his salt expects it in some form or another. I find it laughable, also, that we’re not supposed to take the symptoms of the illness as a means to find a way to treat a patient, and that you’re broadly generalizing a supposed bad experience on other doctors. Bravo.
Doctors don’t tell you to take “natural” products because for the most part it’s not their job. It’s YOUR job to eat healthy.
Kinda funny, but using ginger in large amounts can also cause stomach problems. Also funny, it seems that your wife’s coughing problem went away anyway in prior years after a short amount of time. Are you absolutely certain it was the ginger performing the miracle?
There we are with that “traditional doctors” misunderstanding. And an excellent case of “it worked for me”. Let me give my own testimonial: modern-day medicine has worked just fine for me, and I and my family have never had to resort to excessive payouts to doctors for little return in terms of services.
A lot of natural remedies and alternative medicines rely almost entirely on the placebo effect, for things that would get better on their own without much help from anything. Strength of will and all that, it’s well documented. So, who’s paying more? The people that sit back and let their illnesses pass, or those that pay for silly cures to things that would go away anyway?
All this woo woo floating around. As to the original post, erv has a lot to say about genes causing cancer.
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html
http://nccam.nih.gov/
And from the James Randi Educational Foundation:
http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-04/040706federlein.html
Wow, found this after researching Andreas after seeing him mentioned as believable by some poor schmuck here:
http://skepticdetective.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/should-i-vaccinate-my-baby/
His anti-immunisation video further demonstrates his woo-woo approach to medicine and science…. I second the fact that this man is dangerous.
Is it really necessary to call someone a “poor schmuck” just because you don’t believe in his beliefs?
Michael;
It is disappointing to read your comments full of anger and anxiety. And you call yourself a professional? You don’t seem to pay attention to anything that Moritz is saying except for picking up some quotes and commenting on them. This is a typical reaction of a modern “scientist” who is generally unable to see the whole picture in anything, and trying to make sense just picking unessential details.
For your information, I am not a “creationist” as you like calling it, I hold a doctorate from University of Michigan, and yet I haven’t seen anyone among the “educated” and “professional” people and colleagues who had such understanding of our life and existence, and such insights into the sicknesses and diseases that strike us today.
You don’t seem to have red Moritz’s books carefully, but rather browsed them in order to find something against them. You are just looking for some place to release your anger, and I wish you could find someone else for that.
Having been in academic environment in three different countries for 13 years and having studied in some of the most respected schools in my area of concentration, I have come to realize that the modern system of higher education gives you nothing but “information”. The “knowledge” is acquired by only few who venture outside the academic experience and explore themselves and their world through their own intelligence.
Again, you just seem to be an angry, scared and anxious person, who in his attempt to save obviously failing practices and theories to which he belongs, is rudely attacking a guy who has saved so many lives and cured so many people.
I wish you the best. Just calm down and behave like a “pro” you claim to be.
Henry.
Jesus, is this bunch of morons for real or is Andy using sockpuppets?
Cut out the patronizing, Henry. It is disgusting. And read up some cognitive neuroscience, about how the whole palette of emotions are important for us humans, they motivate us to act otherwise we would stay in bed and never get up.
We want substance not a ‘nice’ facade. Moritz gives only the latter.
Totally agree with your text Henry.
(and even if I have some troubles to find a new job, I’m graduated as well)
Gee whiz, you two sure sound super educated! Raimond, why don’tcha ask the good Doctor Moritz to front you some of his product line to sell to all your friends and/or fellow alumni? Perhaps Henry could also give you some advice from his many years of woo…I-I mean world-wide studies. A meeting of the minds, in other words. Man, it would be like having two Wile E. Coyotes at the same time! That’s some unimaginable brain firepower right there, uh, unless it’s you guys, ’cause of course you could imagine it. I was talking about us numbskulls who just can’t stop bleating about “evidence” and other such time-wasters.
Several of the posters here have commented on the fact that Micheal is not “calm”. Sometimes frustration and anger are appropriate, such as when confronting a person who is trying to scam people into spending money on dangerous ideas. Would you get angry if a car company was knowingly selling cars with brakes prone to failure and there were multiple deaths? Sometimes being calm is completely inappropriate.
I have no doubt that a large amount of unresolved stress over a long period of time, such as with chronic depression, can weaken the body, but I also have no doubt that causality is hard to prove here. Do “stressed” people smoke more? Eat poor diets? Exercise less? Drink more alcohol? etc., etc.. It takes carefully designed, long term studies to separate correlated events from caused events.
Were Mr. Moritz not requiring Micheal to BUY his book before he will have a discussion with him I might have given him a respectful listen, but he is and so I don’t.
Their ignorance on the important role the full range of emotions play for us is astounding. And they will be kept ignorant because Moritz and quacks like him think incorrectly some emotions are good and some are bad. They are all important.
“These reports, the first to specifically focus on cancer survivorship, suggest that there has been marked progress in the treatment of cancer and that a more comprehensive research and clinical focus is needed for post-treatment care of survivors.”
“Among the findings: The number of people living with cancer increased from 3 million in 1971 to 9.8 million in 2001, and 5-year survival of adult cancer has increased from 50% to 64% within that rough time frame. Changes in 5-year survival rates were even greater in childhood cancer: 79% in 2001 compared with 56% three decades ago”.
Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Volume 96, Number 13, Pp. 1412-1413.
“Studies done over the past 30 years that examined the relationship between psychological factors, including stress, and cancer risk have produced conflicting results. Although the results of some studies have indicated a link between various psychological factors and an increased risk of developing cancer, a direct cause-and-effect relationship has not been proven (3, 4).”
National Cancer Institute, /cancertopics/factsheet/risk/stress/
Mr. Moritz changed his faq page address from /faq.php to faq.htm so the above link would be broken. Just change the .php to .htm.
He says he’s too busy to answer email questions and then explains how to pay for a phone consultation. You get an unspecified discount on purchases if you are “accepted” as a wholesaler (min. 10 item purchase), and an extra 10% off for orders over 50 items.
He does have some free info, though, such as:
“If you suffer any of the following symptoms, or similar conditions, you likely have numerous gallstones in your liver and gallbladder:
# Low appetite
# Food cravings
# Diarrhea
# Constipation
# Hernia
# Flatulence
# Hemorrhoids
# Liver cirrhosis
# Hepatitis
# Most infections
# High cholesterol
# Pancreatitis
# Heart disease
# Brain disorders
# Duodenal ulcers
# Depression
# Impotence
# Puffy eyes
# Skin disorder
# Scoliosis
# Gout
# Stiff neck
# Asthma
# Sciatica
# Joint diseases
* Knee problems
* Osteoporosis
* Obesity
* Chronic Fatigue
* Kidney diseases
* Cancer
* MS and MD
* Nightmares
* Urinary problems
* Hormonal imbalances
* Menstrual and menopausal disorders
* Problems with vision
* Nausea and vomiting
* A ‘bilious’ or angry personality
* Dull pain on the right side
* Difficulty breathing
* Clay-colored stool
* Prostate diseases
* Other sexual problems
* Digestive disorders
* Liver spots, especially those on the back of the hands and facial area
* Dizziness and fainting spells
* Loss of muscle tone
* Excessive weight or wasting
* Strong shoulder or back pain
* Pain at the top of a shoulder blade and/or between the shoulder blades
* Dark color under the eyes
* Morbid complexion
* Tongue that is glossy or coated in white or yellow
* Frozen shoulder
* Headaches and migraines
* Tooth and gum problems
* Yellowness of the eyes and skin
* Numbness and paralysis of legs
* Alzheimer’s disease
* Cold extremities
* Excessive heat and perspiration in the upper part of the body
* Very greasy hair or hair loss
* Cuts or wounds that keep bleeding and don’t heal
* Difficulty sleeping, insomnia
* Stiffness of joints and muscles
* Hot and cold flushes”
Ener-chi, “The Number One Health Risk”
But you have to buy the book to find out how to get rid of all of these ailments. I have to say (and maybe I’m not the best businessman) that if I had that knowledge I would call every researcher in the country and share my secret for free…just to make the world a better place.
Yeah, these quacks are simpletons. They love to push the idea that all symptoms stem from one cause as if that is some original insight.
Now we have to *pay* to hear a thundering Gish-Gallop of lies & fraud?
No thanks!
Low appetite AND food cravings??? ROFL, if you don’t want to eat you have gallstones and if you do want to eat, guess what? You have gallstones.
This might be the funniest thing I have read next to that Moritz thinks he speaks to Merlin. LOLOLOL
I was first intrigued by Moritz’s AMAZING LIVER CLEANSE book until I started looking at some of the incredibly broad claims he made, one of which really caught my attention. He claims that “Over 2/3 of the world’s population is vegan and has no access to animal protein. It [presumably this 'vegan population'] shows no signs of such degenerative illnesses as heat disease, cancer, osteoporosis, arthritis, etc.” p77
It caught my attention because my well-meaning but occasionally gullible fiance decided that this book was law and that he meant to change his lifestyle accordingly, and become vegan, because he felt so great while on the “cleanse.” Well, I didn’t feel great, myself, because I was lethargic and was craving protein and fat and felt like sleeping for a week–so this broad claim that 2/3 of the world’s population (roughly 4.5 billion, based on the 6,827,100,000 estimate of total world population of the US Census, June 4, 2010) is vegan hit me like a ton of bricks–SURELY I would have heard that before, having so many vegan friends, if that were the case. Thinking about the world’s cuisine, most countries have meat recipes–how could this possibly be true? Well, researching online gave me the impression that the world population of vegetarians (not even vegan) was closer to 2.5-5%, NOT 67%, so I started questioning what other “facts” were in this book that just a month before, we were so in awe of, since it sounded so scientific (we’re both kind of gullible when it comes to pseudoscience). I found lots of other “liver flush” recipes, and people raving about them, but also found they were saying the stones “melted” and were “squishy” which seemed to contradict what Wikipedia said about gallstones, and might instead be saponified olive oil from the cleanse when exposed to the bile salts. So I got very suspicious, and was wary, because, as I said, I was doing this “cleanse” too, and suddenly it didn’t seem like such a great idea. But (maybe to say “I told you so! to my fiance) I did anyway, though I did NOT take the last dose of epsom salts, because I was tired of being hungry and going to the toilet every 5 minutes–enough is enough! I know that people claim to gain wonderful benefit from it, and supposedly Moritz himself does it twice a year even though no “stones” come out. Me and my fiance didnt’ notice a lot of “stones” (pseudoliths?), either, though, but that might have more to do with how our bodies deal with 120ml of olive oil. We’ve both decided, however, that we can do without it for the future, and I’m so looking forward to eating ice cream again, despite Mr. Moritz’s dietary guidelines.
Furthermore, I wanted to add that the danger of unsubstantiated disinformation–if such there is–is that people often read things without considering their source, then remember the (dis)information, not remembering where they heard/read about it, making it harder to trace where certain ideas came from, and therefore examine them. I guess this is a lot of what “conditioning” is about, come to think about it. But just reading that one sentence (sited in my previous post) caused me to doubt this whole book that I’d mostly read, and had already internalized, to some extent, which astonishes me–who would have thought that “open-minded” somehow became “gullible,” but I think the connection certainly exists. Therefore, a lot of disinformation can be spread to people without a “bullshit meter,” making us vulnerable unless we doubt everything. It broke my trust in the author, that’s for sure.
It’s typical for squatty little internet chubsters like Paula to be so clogged up that nothing comes out on the first 2, or even sometimes 3 flushes. Darwinism takes over at this point and they never have the self-control to go through with additional flushes, as is typical with no follow through in most aspects of their lives.
The ones that need it the most possess and inner-self destruct instinct that drives them to erase their DNA from the planet. If not this generation, it will surely wipe out the next.
Wow, “Fatty Punisher,” how nastily eloquent you are! Luckily, I had already decided not to spawn, so yes, my legacy will live on my multitude of projects (which I do finish, if they are worthwhile, which I decided this “cleanse” wasn’t) that I have to my name. I don’t think that your snap judgement of me is accurate, however. It certainly took a LOT of discipline to give up all sugar (as well as most carbs) for six weeks in Spring–certainly more discipline than it takes to chug copious amounts of apple juice and then sit on the toilet for a day. Your post, rather than convincing me to “try it again” is actually having the opposite effect, and I know that any comment of mine towards you will be useless, in any case. Let me just add that my fiancé is NOT a chubster–he is 6 feet tall and weights 155lbs, and he also did the cleanse, and he didn’t get many “green balls” either, but he certainly had a more miserable time with feeling nauseated than I did. He also decided it was a bust–even though he was very gung ho about it–after the “results.”
“Every loving thought is true. Everything else is an appeal for help, regardless of the form it takes.”
Great post Henry. You are kind, eloquent and respectful. Every post written against Moritz comes across so angry and I’m left asking myself, ‘Why is Moritz’s information perceived to be threatening?’ What is the alternative, really? What has conventional medicine really done for cancer? Sorry guys but chemotherapy, radiation, and ectomies are just not good enough. You know Michael, if you came across intelligently (by not using the words ‘stupid’) and respectfully, people would be more inclined to listen to what you have to say. We all know the rest of the angry folk are on your side anyway. . .
Sorry for your ignorance. You think anger is bad? Well, it isn’t. It motivates us to change.
You conflate anger with frustration.
Grace,
You seem not to have read my previous posts, in which I answered every one of your questions. This is silly. Being angry does not make one wrong. Moritz’s information is perceived to be threatening because he promotes, for financial gain, ideas that can cause considerable harm to people who are sucked into being convinced that his opinion is fact. Could you stop criticizing Micheal’s attitude, which is completely beside the point, and respond to the evidence?
I have posted some factual information from The National Cancer Institute above. Please refute this information, if you can, before bringing up Micheal’s emotional state again.
I still have not gotten an answer from anyone about why Mr. Moritz is profiting off ideas which, if true, could alter the world dramatically for the better. Could someone PLEASE answer this? I have Type 1 Diabetes, a brain injury from a congenital Arteriovenous Malformation, a brain injury from Malarial Encephalitis, and Epilepsy. I pay for “Western” health insurance (which has saved my life more than once), but I get FREE advice from a D.O. who is my brother’s business partner, and advice my acupuncturist whom I pay $5 per session because she knows that I am near destitute. Why is Mr. Moritz so greedy?
Remember, we are not discussing emotional states; we are discussing deeply important issues of health and morality. Calling someone angry is an easy and well recognized way of avoiding answering to factual information. “Just keep to the facts, Ma’am.” as the TV cops used to say.
So, I take it you are against all writers? If you must be told, Mr Moritz is a writer and researcher and this is his occupation. It is customary to be paid for your occupation. Do you think medical workers get no pay? I am of a pretty sure that you gotta sell a Heck of a lot of books merely to survive in that business. I’m very sure he makes less than $5 a book too….nature of that business.
I’m just against dangerous liars.
Haha, you’re seriously going to argue that smokers are positve thinkers? Yeah right. They know smoking is damaging to their health. It’s a concious act of self-hate.
I don’t know how well his cancer cures work because i havn’t personally tried them, but as far as i can tell this guy Moritz knows what he’s talking about when it comes to gallbladder & liver cleanses. i tried it a couple of times and had a nasty amount of stones flush out. He is helping people to help themselves, in a much more affordable way. Compare the prices of what Moritz says you’ll need to use, to a hospital or doctor visit. Major money savings if you go the natural way. The joke’s on you Michael.
So then what of those who smoked prior to anyone knowing that cigarettes were so harmful? We should find a cancer incident rate which is not statistically different from the general, non-smoking population, right?
Oh, and where are your studies which show a causative link between negative thinkers and smokers?
Darn science.
All of you really make me laugh. Thanks for making my day. The argument on both sides doesn’t really solve the question of quackery does it? A blend of modern medicine and natural medicine seems to be the best answer to the problems here. It is true that our parents or grandparents were perhaps healthier than we are due because they grew some of their own foods, but their life span was not as long. We have good medical advancements that weren’t available then that help our expected life spans be longer. The practices of people in other cultures in regards to foods and medical care and how much longer they live is both a scientific fact and “natural” fact. Some people in certain countries and those that eat or don’t eat certain foods certainly do live longer lives. The question here does not seem to be whether or not Mr. Moritz is a quack, but the intolerance of both of these men to come to some type of middle ground. If none of the claims made by either of these “scholars” was true, would we even have to read this? Actual scientists are looking into the benefits of eating a more natural diet and most of the drugs we are given are based on plant properties that have been synthesized. So it seems that the medical community does not completely debunk the naturalist point of view. The only problem I see is that both of these people believe that only they are right and there is no meeting halfway. If someone wants to look into the Moritz books or “read” them online, if you just Google the name of the book, it is possible to read a lot of it online as some sites give you a inner glimpse and some allow you to read most of the book. The only drawback is that in order to have the information you have read with you for reference, you must buy the book. This is true with most books, not just one author. P.S. There are other “practitioners” out there making a lot more money off of their ideas than just Mr. Moritz. What about the “Eat Right 4 Your Type guy? His theories seem much more far fetched than someone who is touting a natural foods diet.
Science based medicine embraces the aspects that alternative medicine says it does not, like nutrition, like exercise, like positive thinking. The stuff that works is medicine.
There are a lot of points made in your post, Sandy, and most of them I will let rest as they are. But as for the last one about other people with far fetched ideas, I will address.
I’m not familiar with the specific example you give, but I’m sure there are a lot of people out there looking for a quick buck through dishonest means. That’s awful, but it isn’t necessarily dangerous. Moritz, on the other hand, is dangerous. He is giving ‘advice’ which goes against the health of cancer patients. In another book, he claims HIV isn’t contagious. It’s bad enough he’s selling snake oil, but now he’s lacing it with poison.
And, from what I hear, advising healthy folk against vaccines!
Well, then, that’s your problem right there. You’re not educated enough yet to be making such derogatory/inflammatory remarks against someone until you know all the facts. Maybe when you graduate?
C’mon Mike, face it; you’re just as bad as Moritz because you point out the poison without patting him on the back for not pointing out how his spiritually-infused rocks aren’t poisonous at all! ( Though perhaps Moritz might add that they should NOT be ingested. )
I think we are living in a time that when a MD makes an error it is part of his job people say. When a person who is good known with alternative medicine makes an error he/she is called a snake oil seller.
Time will change I suppose. What is the value of a MD who has studied 20 or 30 years ago and who learned in his Medical school only 8 hours information about foodstuff.
If I put cognac and not diesel in my car he won’t be happy.
My father had a brain infarct and his MD did not even ask him what he eat every day. Worse he did not even tell him what to eat in the future. Is that also a snake oil seller?
I agree with you that there are people who do or don’t have the knowledge and wants to make a quick buck. (but even people who are MD don’t they?).
Don’t forget that eating and thinking can makes you sick, so eating and (not too much) thinking can makes you also healthy.
Good that someone has the integral knowledge of all this.
Its funny. As I was reading this article, I kept thinking how poorly it was written…and then I caught his comment at the end actually attacking Moritz’s writing…made me laugh.
You use ellipsis. Are you out of breath, my little know-it-all grammar nazi?
English is obviously his second language, Jennifer. And how many languages can you write perfectly in?
Sorry, Jennifer, I thought you were referring to Raimond’s commentary above yours. I’m assuming you were referring then to Mr. Hawkins article. On that I will concur.
ha…This article has quite the Fox News flare…perhaps Michael could find employment there, a budding Bill O’Reilly! Yes, I do think the world might need just one more novice commentator. “stupid,” “dangerous,” “crackpot…” very convincing vocabulary! haha.
I feel no need to defend my writing. There are hundreds of posts which do that for me on this blog. However, the person who uses ellipses in her writing may want to rethink laying down criticism.
I know, the use of ellipsis is hilarious. Maybe Jennifer needs to slow her breathing and count her breaths?
Yes, but I’m not writing a professional essay:) Just making a comment (see…I just wrote a phrase). oh no!
What is with all these people who think I’m claiming to be a scholar or professional or anything else? I’ve pointed out that I’m an undergrad student within this very comment section.
Because they have their fingers in their ears going la, la, la.
Mike, please don’t feed the trolls, and Jennifer is one huge troll.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have fed Moritz then.
Now you’re catching on, Michael. Sometimes the higher road is the best one to take which you will learn upon your graduation into life itself.
There’s a difference with being informative versus close-minded and overly critical.
Well at least I didn’t get dinged on MY writing yet. lol. There is an excellent movie made by a real person with cancer called Crazy Sexy Cancer. You should really watch for it. The woman making it is filming her journey as she finds out she has stage 4 cancer and what she does/does not do to try and “cure” it. Won’t take up all the space here by giving it away, but if any of you have seen it would like your opinion. It is usually shown on the Discovery Health channel. You may also want to scan the Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type website. This guy is saying that based on your blood type you must eat certain things and not others. Some of the suggestions make some sense, but I have yet to find out any scientific research that supports that if you are a type O, you should eat lots and lots of red meat. Cholesterol anyone????
Hahaha…a troll. Sassy!
I did the gall bladder flush. There is nothing new about these type of flushes. They are very very old. The South Americans, Native Americans, and African Americans do these. He did not coin them, but they do work. It doesn’t take buying a book. There is another free website called hulda’s gall bladder flush. I would say that Moritz is making a buck off something he did not create.
oh goodness, google saponification. And the next time you do a cleanse, poke those stones, they are soft, they aren’t stones!
ohhh, also, I did not purchase anything from him (book, materials) and did fine with the gall bladder cleanse.
A very emotionally driven forum this one appears to be. The war on cancer hasn’t worked, but the non allopathic side hasn’t had any more victories than the allopathic side. There is a lot of quackery in complimentary therapies but its also there in big pharma as well.
I work around the world on the mind body aspects of cancer for Improvement In the Quality of Life NOT CURING or claiming to cure. I’ve done a few small correctly conducted clinical trials, and there is a lot of other good quality evidence to demonstrate the effects of the mind body connection, but it cannot cure cancer. I spent some time at the Royal Marsden Hospital this year and spoke to lots of victims who had paid up to and over a million pounds for treatment and most of them never make it home, so who’s ripping who off. I felt sorry for the Drs and nurses who had no option but to follow the standard of care regardless of the often pathetic negavtive outcomes. Having said that a lot of people don’t make it home from the alternative clinics either. There is no single cause for cancer so there is going to be no single cure. The MDs are always going to make better diagnosticians than the other side and all cancer IS NOT emotionally inspired, the fear and negative emotions which tend to over ride the psyche after a diagnosis don’t help the body to cure though. The bottom line is that it is very serious disease that does kill and has a better treatment result if it is detected early, even then many of the cancers are going to kill their host regardless of what type of treatment they choose. The disease is an insideous curse that lines the pockets of too many people on both sides of the fence. At the end of the day “The only thing mankind ever cured was fish and bacon.” the body heals itself with the right help including medications, surgury, diet, sun, and a contented attitude. If you smoke and abuse yourself with a poor diet well perhaps you should reconsider your lifestyle and habits to give yourself a better chance. The self abusers so often heard about who live to 100 and smoked and drank everyday etc are mostly urban myths and by far the exception than the rule.
This argument will go on forever until a unified protocol is brought into being and I think unless big pharma owns and controls it, then that is never going to happen. There are three types of lies “Lies, Damn Lies, and Stastics. At the end of the day if you are diagnosed research your treatment outcomes carefully and always get a second opinion before you make your choice. If you liove in a country where cancer treatment is 100% controlled by medicine and you have no other treatment options available, don’t go back to your doctor, go to your travel agent and head for a place like Germany or Switzerland where at least you will have some good evidence based allied therapies available administered by medical staff who are prepered to peek beyond chemo and radiation or use them in conjuction with it.
What do you have against emotions? Give us evidence, and we will accept your view.
Hey,
Might want to keep with the facts rather than inventing alternative realities in which “the war on cancer hasn’t worked”. Science-based medicine and careful cancer research over the last several decades has resulted in significant progress on the mortality rates for the vast majority of cancers. It hasn’t been overnight “victory” like many quacks seem to seek, but steady, significant and incremental progress over the last several decades.
See:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-08/aafc-cmr080609.php
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57C0LW20090813
On the other hand, non-science based quackery like Montiz’s crap has neither saved one life nor contributed one iota to the discourse on cancer research. He has merely provided quackery (likely causing the delay of legitimate treatment) to desperate cancer victims with more money than sense.
Thanks for all the swell info, Ricky! I’m gonna need a few weeks to sort through it and determine what the heck you’re talking about, but then, I’m gonna do what you suggest. I think.
Hi and thanks Trog69.
Its a tough call. \After daignosis it is important not to panic and to make an informed choice. Don’t consider all allopathic treatments as guarantees for cure, and if you choose an alternative treatment clinic make sure it is attached to a medical hospital where all options are available to you.
I don’t know if I can say it here but the the Cecil Clinic in Lausanne Switzerland is excellent and so in The Clinique Genolier in Nyon Switzerland. In these two clinics all evidence based treatments from both sides of the fence are available and the medical staff are very caring highly trained. Its the same in mexico, many of the clinics are extremely dubious but there are some good ones. In Italy the De Bella treatment is also strongly evidence based and administered by trained medical staff.
we have a hypothermia frequency treatment in Australia brought into being by a medical specialist called John Holt, clinical and experiential evidence for its success on many cancers was overwhelming, but the powers that be abmonished it although once the press got hold of the story they had to admit his protocol had some valid merit. I was amazed to learn it is now on national health in Germany and one of the first lines of treatment for many cancers in Germany. So who’s right and who’s wrong. Western medicine is based on science and the nature of science is that evidence must be produced. One thing that is a fact is that there are many cancers that there are many cancers for which chemotherpay is basically useless and does nothing more than to induce misery, but there are also new targeted chemotherapy protocols that are prooving to be very succesful with some cancers.
One thing is for sure, at the end of the day we will all meet our maker, and it is more comfortable to do that not ravaged by expensive poison which is what chemo can be if it is not evidence based to show a genuine improvement.
Oh boy, I sure messed that one up.
Ur a dick – SHUT UP
Pam, also Hulda Clark copied and adapted her liver flush. She added Parasite zapping and black walnut Hull Tincture to it.
Moritz and Clark made it popular and now many people saved their gallbladder.
Deepak Chopra writes about consciousness and the soul. Is he the inventor of consciousness and the soul?
And what did Hulda Clark die of?
Why can’t you people find another cauldron/bug zapper to brew your concoctions?
trog69 I thought I’d found a forum here that was at least a little bit balanced. What an angry person you must be eveything I have read that you have posted here is either attacking or defensive, so stick to your opinions with your equally attacking undergrad mate and stay on your futile path, do you have shares in Ivax, ot are you like John Reed, on the board of Ivax and British American tobacco as well? For the trillions of dollars that have been wasted since Reagan declared his war on cancer there has been basically no improvements in cure or survival rates. It is a shame that science and reality don’t often make good bedfellows. Another dose of Chemo anybody?
There is no single cause or cure for cancer. The so called science funded by the Pharma industry continuously manipulates stastics and dresses itself in far finer garments than its really entitled to wear. If we stick with the same science of the past we are going to keep getting the same results and dollar for dollar they are quite pathetic. Sure there is a lot of quackery out there, but its on both sides of the fence. Science once asid the earth was flat WRONG. Science once said the Sun revolved around the earth WRONG. Medical science was once adament that all ulcers were caused by stress and stomach acid, then waited 20 years and let a Vet give himself ulcers and cure them countless times before all the old buggers at the med schools retired or dropped dead to save them the embarassment of their stick in the mud incorrectness before he got a nobel prize, and the guy was a Vet not even a doctor. If you are an MD you must have a futile cure rate and should perhaps stick to panel beating the physically injured, if you are also an undergrad well your attitude is understandable. As long as medicine is as one eyed as your opinions seem to be well its going to be a long time before any advances are made. Or maybe your just one of those people who likes to argue and throw mud at any cnace you get. Face it the world is waking up, and as far as cancer treatment is concerned western medicine is not on the winning side anymore.
You are the one that is sleeping. Cancer treatment is improving and more and more lives are being saved by science based medicine.
Might want to keep with the facts rather than inventing alternative realities in which “the war on cancer hasn’t worked”. Science-based medicine and careful cancer research over the last several decades has resulted in significant progress on the mortality rates for the vast majority of cancers. It hasn’t been overnight “victory” like many quacks seem to seek, but steady, significant and incremental progress over the last several decades.
See:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-08/aafc-cmr080609.php
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57C0LW20090813
On the other hand, non-science based quackery like Montiz’s crap has neither saved one life nor contributed one iota to the discourse on cancer research. He has merely provided quackery (likely causing the delay of legitimate treatment) to desperate cancer victims with more money than sense.
Additionally, as a historical note, those that claimed the earth was flat were not “scientists” in any modern sense of the word. Because of the lack of a scientific process, ancients merely took the idea the world was flat from basic intuition. There was no “scientific evidence”, as the ancients formed and accepted worldviews based on intuition/the supernatural. It also was a theory in later religious doctrines (bible mentions a flat world with water as the sky). Lucky for all of us, the self-correcting process of evidence called science was able to over-turn the widely held worldview. If anything, folks like Moritz and yourself are far more like “flat-earthers” (anecdotal evidence, appeals to “nature” and ability to ignore evidence if it doesn’t conform to one’s ideological worldview).
remember a statue was never built in the name of a critic
Concern troll will piss himself when they unveil the Roger Ebert statue.
everybody’s right. nobody wants illness. different treatments work for different people. Prevention is still the key and alternative cures for cancer really work but one must alter one’s diet and lifestyle redically which is not easy sometimes. EVERY form of cancer/illness treatment is a risk.
The only way to heal the world is to keep an open mind and respect and love everyone. Grab the person you hate the most and tell them how much you love them NOW!
love and health to you all,
blessings,
joy
Only effective treatments work. Prove they work and they will become a part of medicine.
Andreas Moritz a standard contributor at CureZone has always been a gentleman, but the whole site is infested with greed and behind the scenes less than ethical behavior.
Moderators are not moderate, nor do they allow anything that might interfere with a good sales pitch for product- they use all the tactics that they criticize big pharma
Spam, computer breakins you name it destroying blogs out and out spite. Some alt names have come out of that backdrop of less than ethical behavior.
jinjee, who is well loved and cannot be questioned because the post will be hidden, Talifero as Hanna, Johanna, Invincible, Maya and several otehr identities.
Lapis, Dr Donald Walker of Medical Remore Viewing infamy heals by getting in one’s underwear ! Also bilking older wealthy yoga teachers who call him “Her lover” -join the list of patients, friends and lovers
Let’s see I believe David Wolfe of “Sponge Bob” fame “Best Day Ever” ones ever to uncover will be , Dr Group III, his old partner and Iodine forum guru, Andreas Moritz, and several other colorful dupes
Don and Bob, Did you pay the IRS taxes on your gambling winnings?;}
Wow. CureZone is the motherlode of Woowoowoo. Here’s just the first few Support Forum threads:
• Relationship 4 min
• Mosaic 4 min
• Support Mosaic 4 min
• Favorites 4 min
• Oxygen 8 min
• Peeling Lips 11 min
• The Truth in Medicine 35 min
• Fasting: Water Only. 39 min
• Iodine Supplementation 42 min
• News 63 min
• Diet & Nutrition 63 min
• Spirituality 73 min
• Consciousness 73 min
• Deceased’s Messages 73 min
• Psychic Experiences 73 min
• Astrology 82 min
• Enema & Colonics 96 min
If I were still in the market for a babysitter, a “Yes” to the question “do you post @CureZone?” would kill the deal right there.
Dude, maybe you know something about science but not much about law. If I were Andreas Moritz I would sue your ass and not worry if its “bad karma” for you or for me. He can easily put you to jail for 2 years. You cant publicly offend a person. Thats just one example-
“Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
Tom,
Fuck you, you giant bag of dicks. You don’t have any right to not be offended by me. If such a right existed, everyone in the world who is offended by medical quackery could sue Moritz in one giant class-action lawsuit. But they can’t, on account of how stupid you are.
You can’t publicly offend a person? Yes, you can, it is called free speech.
Under what law, jackass? It is unreal that we have these alt-med troglodytes that parade as attorneys.
Libel/Slander is a civil matter between two parities. The state, unless we are talking about a third world country, does not step in with the criminal process to settle the personal vendettas of quacks.
BTW, I have no idea where you got that statue. But the statue is not in anyway referring to “offending” speech. Rather the statue refers death/bodily harm threats- not relevant at all to this completely factual post.
First of all, yes I do know about the laws which protect me. Second, he could not put me in jail. Here are the reasons you’re wrong.
1. A libel suit is what would need to occur here. Moritz would need to prove that I adversely affected his income while also showing that I said something untrue. In other words, I would have needed to attack him with some falsehood. That has not happened. I took the ridiculous things he has said and gave my opinion on them. That’s protected under the First Amendment.
2. If he brought a suit against me and actually won, I would not be jailed. You have no idea what you’re saying. Criminal cases can result in jail or prison. This would be a civil matter.
3. I can publicly offend whomever I please. Like right now, you’re a complete and utter twit. That was fun. I hope you are offended.
I love all your books Andreas Mortiz. They gave me so much insight and guidance for healing. Your books speak the truth. Thank you!
And Moritz loves your money.
Nice socketpuppet, Andy. I know that Alt-med creditability seems to revolve around these Nigerian-spamesque personal “testimonials”, but that doesn’t work for people that have a IQ above 80.
Andreas Moritz’s books have helped me and my family tremendously. His books are cheap and for all of you who say you need to give him $ you’ve forgotten that his books are available at the library for free. And everything used in his protocols are inexpensive and he in no way makes money off them. To the writer of this article: You suck.
And to the writer of this comment, you are gullible and that is sad.
To all you poor deluded saps who have been “helped” by Moritz and his type- one thousand anecdotes do not equal data. If you want anyone to take you seriously, you’d better come up with some peer-reviewed, published, and replicatable evidence. And for your information, there is no alternative or traditional medicine. The choice is between evidence-based medicine and bullshit. And of course we are angry. We see you morons cluttering up our schools, our airwaves, our bookstores, and our internets with your pathetic, weak-brained attempts to gain parity for your hucksters and charlatans. Just go back to Atlantis. And Michael? Keep up the good work, my friend. Way to light a fire!
Michael, you’re an undergrad and you wrote this crap against Andreas? It’s like a toddler saying sex is bad for you.
A undergrad degree is still better than any academic accomplishment than Mr. Moritz has been able to accomplish. The guy likes to play doctor but has no medical degree.
Read it:
Actually, I’d say that, if Mr. Moritz is really treating cancer patients according to the principles he espouses in his two articles on cancer on his website, then it is he who deserves criminal prosecution. Where’s the South Carolina medical board when you need it? Or where’s its attorney general, given that Moritz appears to be practicing medicine without a license? After all, I don’t see any medical degree, medical license, or even a naturopathic medical license listed anywhere on his website. All that is there is a description of Moritz as a “medical intuitive; a practitioner of Ayurveda, iridology, shiatsu, and vibrational medicine; a writer; and an artist.”
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/02/andreas_moritz_legal_intimidation_in_the.php
Yes, yes, my undergrad status does mean that cancer is not a disease. Excellent ad hominen argument. Really solid.
Michael. You come off as a ranty little brat while
Andreas intelligently answers all your questions
and concerns but you ignore practically everything
he says in response to you.
As I’ve said before Andreas helped me though a
two terribly painful gall bladder attacks and told me
NOT TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING HIM. I must have
called him at least 6 or 7 times and he patiently
guided through the most painful time in my life.
I know I must have been a pain in the ass but he
never said that.
Instead he was THERE for me and I will appreciate
him for the rest of my life.
To repeat: He is a good and decent man who IS
NOT out to make a buck of of others.To the contrary,
And you come off as person who does not understand that real doctors treat gallstones with efficacy.
bum that’s farmaceutical industry site. how much do they pay you Michael to desinform people around.
propaganda site
Prove that Michael is a pharma shill or shut up.
Dude, michelle, the guy is named “alien” for fuck’s sake. He is likely posting from his motor home somewhere in Rosewell.
Michael is obviously another creation of the pharma funded medical curriculums. Bottom line since Reagan declared a war on cancer is that it is increasing flat out and their stastics are easily fudged to make it look otherwise, but then if I was going to earn the fortune that most oncologists get paid to indulge in the futility of handing out patented poison I would believe what I was taught as well. Its nice when you meet the old school doctors who know there is much more to it that the academic attitude that is now enforced upon all medical students. And what a result, trillions of dollars paid out in all directions to keep the lie going while 300,000 a year in the US die from medical mistakes and incompetence.
In reality most people are going to die from most cancers if they contract it. The system is based on profit. So I guess you can die in agony from most approved treatments or just take painkillers and die in peace and leave your money to your family.
Why would any person pay a fortune to spend an extra year or two in agony and misery. So called science is never going to find an answer to this, and as far as Western allopathic medicine is concerned, it is now based 12% on science and research and 88% on peer review, so it will be a long time before they even look for the truth let alone find it . It was amazing that last year they actually admitted that some cancers are viral, ten years ago anyone who said that was a quack.
Wrong jackass.
http://www.bioeducenter.org/study-case/study-traces-steady-declines-in-u-s-cancer-deaths.html
Stop posting this crap.
Choice: Have cancer today or cancer in the 50′s. How many people will choose the latter? How about after looking at the change in survival rates?
in simplicity i ask a question and require and answer .if you care about human well being more than the pride of being right , cause thats what its all about right ,people being healed from this often fatal disease no matter how, cause if it works the method shouldnt be questioned only utilized,why be so indignant about what hes saying.whats fueling this indignation. see, i ask not do you believe in the method, but do you have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one person have ever yielded any positive fruits as a result of following any of his teachings.if you have thats all an well he need to be exposed, but if not and there are people who have yielded positive results thus ultimately baring the same fruit i believe you would or should want to bare witch is freedom from cancer, please tell me what is your point
The point is a sharp stick shoved straight through your eye into your brain. You’ll never know the difference, and neither will we.
Andreas is a wonderful person. I asked him one little question on facebook about my father. He wrote much more then only the answer on my little question. He dedicates his time in order to help people with problems and it is his passion.
He has more knowledge then many PhD en MD.
That’s my opinion. The doctors of my father did not even ask him about food, emotional state.
Okay, we get it, Raimond. You love the woo! Fine. Don’t follow up on Mr. Moritz’ claims with verifiable evidence. Just keep buying his books and fondling his stones. But you do him no favors by coming here repeatedly and showing how much of a shill for the good “doctor” you really are.
trog69 what is your problem. if hes simply giving someone do credit why r u so upset about it . what he eat dont make you crap.so whats your point
Sorry, str8cain; I don’t speak texting-speak, and you’ve already proven to be an imbecile of the first order, so really, don’t bother translating.
trog69, saying that another person is an imbecile of the first order that’s not makes you more credible.
Why all this violence in your speaking?
trog69 i actually felt like i have lowered my i.q. just to imbecilically responding to you. for me to have read that earlier unascertainable comment you made an actually respond to it was imbecilic on my part. so ironically in your ignorance your quite right. 0_o
U come across as an imbecile (in print) because your grammar, punctuation and English in general is fairly poor
wow you Hawkins lovers are so very uptight, makes ya wonder..hmmmm
Hahaha, “Hawkins lovers”.
hi Michael Hawkins, nice to see you have a funny bone. hope your having a good day. well anyway i wrote ,witch thought was a none offensive question. i would appreciate an answer, my good man. so again,in simplicity i ask a question and require and answer .if you care about human well being more than the pride of being right , cause thats what its all about right ,people being healed from this often fatal disease no matter how, cause if it works the method shouldnt be questioned only utilized,why be so indignant about what hes saying.whats fueling this indignation. see, i ask not do you believe in the method, but do you have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one person have ever yielded any positive fruits as a result of following any of his teachings.if you have thats all an well he need to be exposed, but if not and there are people who have yielded positive results thus ultimately baring the same fruit i believe you would or should want to bare witch is freedom from cancer, please tell me what is your point
Wow. I gotta wonder how the heck either of you two could even find this site, nevermind answering the points made by Mr. Hawkins in this post.
English may not be his mother tongue. Honestly Dickweed, how many languages can u speak and write (perfectly)?
Andreas Moritz encourages people to go on emotional journeys in an effort to find the ‘real’ cause behind their diseases. He says this about just about every ailment, from cancer to diabetes to HIV/AIDS. He is actively discouraging people from seeking real help. This makes him a very dangerous person – and a complete and utter mountebank and charlatan.
Moritz’ ignorance about emotions is awful.
You obviously have little or no experience at all
of real doctors and hospitals,otherwise you’d know that the definition of health is completely different in “western” and “eastern” medicine.Do you even consider yourself healthy…?You definetely don’t sound like that.Also human beings are much way more than just physical beings (like everything in the universe).You notice the tip of the iceberg and you think you know everything.Who’s the mountebank and the charlatan?Only time will tell…
@ 69 witch is irony in itself, once again your ignorance have manifested itself blatantly. i have never not once answered one question from the presumably wise Mr. Hawkins. anything short of inquiry would make me that imbecile, a title you so heavenly bestowed upon me.
A ‘witch’ flies on a broomstick Sir.
@ Mr. Hawkins, your convictions are truly admirable. i can without a shadow of a doubt understand your feelings. when i think of an innocent stress and worry free child, growing up eating healthy and living a good life being taken over by a deathly disease such as cancer, that thought alone wars with and contradicts a lot of what it seems to me he is saying, but also being armed with facts that there are a whole lot of procedures and clams that dont help out a lot, really help let alone have any validity to them. there have been studies that even in early detection some of the medical fields most advance weaponry in this war against cancer have white flagged….so again i am innocently asking do you know with out a shadow of a doubt what he proclaim has never worked?now if you do im with you a.t.w. but if not , on sheer justice of facts alone your in error.
I wonder whether my experience of cancer would be of help? 11 years ago I was diagnosed with non Hodgkin’s lymphoma. I was told that my treatment would consist in a combination of radiotherapy and chemotherapy. This would not cure my cancer however. It would only mean that I would get periods of remission and then my cancer would reappear and I would need more treatment. This, for the rest of my life. I was totally ignorant of alternative approaches and would not have known where to start had I not met a wonderful man who gave me reflexology treatment and much more. He gave me a book written by Rudolf Breuss which I found very enlightening and mentioned Max Gerson as well. I read both books. They made perfect sense. What puzzled me was the resistance from the medical establishment to these approaches. Despite the testimonials from thousands of people who were cured of “terminal” cancer when they followed Breuss’s or Gerson’s methods, these two were never able to have their protocol become an accepted form of treatment. Well, I have no medical knowledge but I followed Breuss’s protocol and then moved on to more juicing. I walked for 2 hours per day I meditated twice a day. I used affirmations and visualisations. They helped me calm my fear and focus my mind on healing myself. I gave up my job…etc etc. Within a year, I was free of cancer and this condition never returned. What Andreas Moritz says in his book is worth noting. You might not agree with it, but please do not ridicule something you do not fully understand. I have seen too many of my relatives die of the treatment they received for their cancer and I am grateful that people like Andreas Moritz at least have an understanding of what makes us sick, on all levels. There are plenty of valid alternatives out there that do not rob people of their power to heal themselves and do not dehumanise them. Yes, there are emotional reasons why a person might develop a certain disease. God, I should know! I had many reasons for mine. Dear Michael, I do hope you are a genuine person and not someone who is paid by the pharmaceutical industry to keep the truth hidden. There is no money to be made in telling people that they can heal themselves with carrot juice and the likes, but there is plenty in fooling us into accepting dangerous drugs as treatment. I wish you well.
There is a lot of money in telling people to drink carrot juice. Alternative practitioners are wealthy.
I wonder if my cancer story will help. My wife got breast cancer. She went to an actual oncologist. She had two minor surgeries and some chemo treatments. She was cured, and has remained cancer-free for 10 years. Her perfectly normal levels of stress and guilt have never changed. Moritz is a fraud, a quack, and I’m not all convinced of your testimonial.
“…heavenly bestowed upon me.”
Ahahahahahahaha! Those internet thesauri sure do come in handy.
haaaaa aaaaahhaha aaaaa !! thesauri trog69 your aaaalright..haa lmbo
@ Cathie, i really appreciate that info.it give me something more to study, cause im not trying to make no one look stupid(witch some people whole entirety just screams it) smart right or wronge , im only interested in facts that are structurally sound that runs synonymous with unmovable truths. until all these are innocently acquired unbiasedly brought forth,and pursued without prejudice there will only be ignorance,witch will make us ignorant, or as the great TROG69 text an imbecile. so again thanks Cathie and i thank God your doing fine
again..@ Mr. Hawkins, your convictions are truly admirable. i can without a shadow of a doubt understand your feelings. when i think of an innocent stress and worry free child, growing up eating healthy and living a good life being taken over by a deathly disease such as cancer, that thought alone wars with and contradicts a lot of what it seems to me he is saying, but also being armed with facts that there are a whole lot of procedures and clams that dont help out a lot, really help let alone have any validity to them. there have been studies that even in early detection some of the medical fields most advance weaponry in this war against cancer have white flagged….so again i am innocently asking do you know with out a shadow of a doubt what he proclaim has never worked?now if you do im with you a.t.w. but if not , on sheer justice of facts alone your in error.
Michael Hawkins, you sound absolutely nothing like Bill O’reilly; you back up your arguments with facts
. Actually Moritz sounds somewhat like him, what with not responding to your points directly, misrepresenting your points, calling you angry and such.
BTW, I wonder if any of these replies are actually sockpuppet accounts created by Moritz? Some of them seem to have a similar writing style to him.
Haven’t you heard? I’m just a shill for Big Pharmaceutical!
I’ve wondered the same thing, 2552. I regularly check IP addresses. They often come from completely different areas. Of course, that doesn’t mean much. It isn’t hard to mess around with IPs. stra8cain’s last post comes from a different address than all his others. Most odd, however, is that they are located within the U.S. His writing style seems to indicate otherwise.
just what do my writing style seem to indicate? and i dont see how my ip address could differ from any other. but anyway i just wanted a simple answer,but to see this between you and 2552 almost would null anything you say. but hey ,my naivety renders me optimistic in a pure hearted fashion…..so ….again….again..@ Mr. Hawkins, your convictions are truly admirable.and i do really mean that. and i can without a shadow of a doubt understand your feelings. when i think of an innocent stress and worry free child, growing up eating healthy and living a good life being taken over by a deathly disease such as cancer, that thought alone wars with and contradicts a lot of what it seems to me he is saying, but also being armed with facts that there are a whole lot of procedures and clams that dont help out a lot, really help let alone have any validity to them. there have been studies that even in early detection some of the medical fields most advance weaponry in this war against cancer have white flagged….so again i am innocently asking do you know with out a shadow of a doubt what he proclaim has never worked?now if you do im with you a.t.w. but if not , on sheer justice of facts alone your in error.
oh yeh and for good measure toward understanding ,thanks for the otherwise…i think
His advice is to “make sense of this life changing event” (cancer) in order to recover from it. He then defines ‘making sense of it’ as confronting personal conflicts, guilt and shame, poor self-image and other things which are not the reason people get cancer. This isn’t going to work to get rid of any disease unless we start defining ‘a case of the Mondays’ as a disease.
His advice is dangerous. It’s anti-scientific in its very nature. All he is doing is preying on people who feel awful about their terrible situation and then claiming that they have a terrible situation because they feel awful. At best he’s misinterpreting the correlations he sees in his personal, anecdotal experiences. At worst he’s abusing the fragile state of many cancer patients just to make a buck.
Have a colonic and a smile. Forget the Coke
@Michael,
I believe Andreas point of vue will be the common view in 5-10 years.
yeah, and I believe I will be a famous movie star in 5-10 years.
“I believe Andreas point of vue will be the common view in 5-10 years.”
Sadly, you might be correct.
We need to counter these frauds right now to make sure that such a disaster does not come to pass.
I agree, Raimond. I also agree that in 5-10 years, just as now, people will post comments in blogs that will consist of willfully ignoring what the author wrote, and opining regardless.
But that will only be a common view and/or modus operandi of the gullible and willfully ignorant, again, just as it is today.
modus operandi , OMG!
@ Michael Hawkins, sir you seem to be an extremely intelligent person.a man who believes what he believes with an obvious conviction that fuels his passion beyond just reasonable determination and patience i might add, that are clearly displayed on this page by your continual answering and responding to some of what i would just simply consider ignorance…..whether it would be from negative narrow minded negators or eager to hop in and help supporters…… (Trog the frog)…..That alone in itself is commendable…to a degree. see as you know science is something to be exhaustively studied and researched .thats even any and every variable.now i can understand how those efforts can simply be bound by the parameters of what one would call logic, in witch that witch Andreas in terms of science speak of , wouldnt be. witch i think is fitting to say things now in science that seem almost basic ,some decades ago wasnt logical.not that they had not already been, but we just merely caught to them with our ever increasing knowledge then tossed them in our category logic.with that being said , all i ask is a simple inquirer is have you use any of that passion to even slightly consider maybe even putting forth the slightest effort in seeing if its any truth to what he says.cause if it isnt anything that would suggest that hes wrong without proof thats not logical, therefor not proper science
And with that, str8cain took a bow, and his brain fell out.
What brain? Oh that mush, you mean? Oh, okay.
aah,..is this me reaping what i sowed for applauding your leaping efforts and willingness to ambitiously use your tongue to lash out (so to speak) against ones who you would THINK bug Michael Hawkins? well i commend your attitude to just jump into it ,cause if anything it does show your ambitious among other things
I have not read all the responses on this site in response to Micheal Hawkins’ s blog responding to Andreas Moritz’s article regarding cancer. I have to say that, from just the responses alone, I have way more respect for Andreas Moritz than I do Michael Hawkins. When someone writes such an absolutely emotional and defamatory piece about another person or thing, it raises questions big time. Why is Michael Hawkins so emotional about this? Does he have connections to and/or shares in pharmaceutical corporations, or did he write that piece on behalf of pharmaceutical corporations. One might almost wonder. The thing is that Mr Moritz is not the only person who has ever drawn attention to how stress can be a cause of cancer. My mother died of colon cancer, and I would say that her cancer was caused by stress (indirectly, as she suffered from severe constipation for years, but constipation most certainly can be caused by stress). An aunt of mine also ended up with colon cancer a couple of years after she started looking after her sister who had Alzheimer’s (which developed after her husband’s death). My aunt, who has a medical background by the way, said herself that she thought stress (from looking after her sister) was a large factor. I have read Andreas Moritz’s article but not his book. However, I think that his article presents a very good argument. Mr Hawkins, if you really want people TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY, then present statistics that confirm the efficacy of chemotherapy (most especially) and radiation (accumulated through scientific and empirical means, not just randomly accumulated to support your case). It would be most interesting if you could do this. (Well, I’m sure if you get your information from pharmaceutical manufacturers, which are known for falsifying information, then you may get your desired results.) By the way, who are you really Mr. Hawkins? Me thinks that you are most certainly not an enlightened member of the human species.
By the way, Chris, I happened to look at you responses citing ‘stat’s on cancer recovery from the National Cancer Society. I assume you know that the Cancer Society receives funding from the Pharmaceutical companies. (In fact, perhaps you work for one.) I know someone who got a job with the Cancer Society in Canada, but did not feel right working there due to a real lack of interest in finding real solutions. (He found it difficult to adjust to their view and ethics — or their lack thereof.) Several years ago a Canadian journalist got cancer and she took the Cancer Society to task, thoroughly exposing how they haven’t really done much at all in seriously researching healing methods for cancer. (And the Cancer Societies do raise millions of funds a year, don’t they?) In fact, I would not be suprised to find out the the National Cancer Society in the US (as I believe the largest percentage of pharmaceutical manufacturers are located there) has more than one representative from a pharmaceutical company on its board. (It has been revealed that Monsanto most certainly has representatives on the FDA — ethical? Not on your life.) Therefore, I would not pay any attention to the falsified information the Cancer Societies spew out to the unsuspecting public. Isn’t it a pity and isn’t it a shame that so many people have been duped by the Pharmaceutical companies, Medical Associations and organizations such as the Cancer Societies. So, we should all just blindly believe science you think? Ironically, the lack of treatment people are getting from the conventional route is the very reason that more and more people are going to alternative practitioners. I guess if it were up to you and Mr Hawkins, all those alternative practitioners (including Mr Moritz) would be shut down and thrown in jail — perhaps with a sentence as long as that given to Madoff. Well, I’m most certainly sure the Pharmaceutical companies and other powers that be (already mentioned) would really support that idea.
Forget Moritz, we can learn a lot from Laureen!
* Michael is emotional, and that’s somehow bad.
* Michael might be a pharmaceutical company shill (connections to, shares in and/or employed by an evil pharmaceutical company)
* Moritz can’t be a crackpot, because there are other (nutters) who share his viewpoint.
* she has two personal anecdotes (including a gran with a “medical background”) which clearly back up the shill claim
* and another which validates her claim that the Cancer Society is also dodgy
* you can only be taken seriously if you present stats – clearly showing someone is a nutter through logic just isn’t enough
* _but_ even if Michael does produce stats, you can’t trust them – he’s a shill remember. Nice circular argument there.
* Michael may not even be Michael (better tell the pharma companies to update his employee details)
* either way, he isn’t an enlightened member of humanity, whatever that means (are any humans enlightened? Sometimes I doubt it)
* Michael wants all alternative practitioners to be shut down and thrown in jail
* Pharmaceuticals and “powers that be” also want to shut down/imprison alternative practitioners
* there is some connection between alternative medical quacks and criminal investment bankers (this is worth a post on its own
Do I have pay money to Laureen so I can get the gall bladder cleanse?
thanks Laureen, such intelligence, such grace, and very very informative. i have been doing some researching of my own, and it line up perfectly with what your saying..im hoping that maybe your more intelligent approach will yield something other than the ingenuous points to ponder by Trog and the ever elusive answers of Micheal Hawkins, but anyway,thanks for the unbias information
Yes Laureen, that’s a great way to have your comment taken seriously.
Please explain why your argument has merit, but remember, I won’t believe anything you present, so, don’t even bother.”
Uh-oh, I didn’t see that you had str8pain’s seal of approval; That changes everything.
aah frog you never stop amazing me
Hey, you aren’t forced to watch my webcam. I’m retired, so I don’t have to dress for success.
smile
One of my sister and I, we began a new life after reading two books of Andreas Moritz, and after doing what he’s advising. My sister is now free of cancer, since one year, (“they” wanted to operate it out) and I, free of fatigue and full of energy. May Michael say, this is only the placebo-effect, may it be….. however, it was successful, after “our” mediciners were not able to help us, but very wondered, what happened!!
Many thanks für Andreas Moritz from Switzerland
Franz
Spontaneous remission? They are fairly common.
Michael, why don’t you change your domain?
http://www.against-andreas-moritz.com
You are not very objective and have something against the person Andreas Moritz so I changed my mind and stop discussing in your thread.
Doing things for the sake of science and being against Andreas Moritz are the same thing.
Yeah, baby!
I wonder if Michael Hawkins will one day have the humility and good grace to acknowledge that his vicious comments are far more harmful than a good liver cleanse ?
Wishing you well
I wonder if Kathy Perrin will one day have the humility and good grace to acknowledge that her gullibility held way more harm than an useless liver cleanse?
I agree with Ewan. Michael is a big pharma paid harasser.
Andreas, forget about him and do your good work. You can not reason with someone who is unreasonable.
Alice, we will never stop exposing the prime quack.
“You can not reason with someone who is unreasonable.”
Nor those who are willfully ignorant.
I quite enjoy these comments. I’ve started a quote of the day theme on my Facebook. Alice calling me “a big pharma paid harasser” was today’s winner.
I know, made me chuckle. So original and so very evidence based.
one small step for Hawkins a giant leap for Trog
Wow. I was reading through this forum and as I was going through it I was preparing my responses in my mind. But the more I read on, the more I started to feel like “What’s the point? Anything I say is going to fall on deaf ears.”
So you know what. I’m not even going to bother discussing the topic because there’s no point. But I just thought I’d share my feelings on this matter.
I think the wise people will read into this and know where I stand on the issue. All I would like to say to those people is stay on your path. You know what’s right for you. And so do I.
Cheers
Shtev
And what role does evidence play in your ‘wisdom?’
Why bother posting at all? What a simpering, mincing, weasel-like post. If you HAVE something to say, say it, and prepare for the mockery. Otherwise don’t bore us.
I’d like to share a little story for those who have ears.
Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.
Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor’s cup full, and then kept on pouring.
The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. “It is overfull. No more will go in!”
“Like this cup,” Nan-in said, “you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?”
People who accept evidence have empty cups. We wait carefully and painstakingly before we fill ours up with real knowledge. You are the ones whose cups are filled with opinions, subjectivity, and feel good wishy washness. They are overflowing with crapola.
I saw that while watching 2012!
Appropriate, no?
Bravo Neil
Shtev
and
And lo, Moritz did say, “Your wallet is full of money and cards. How can I show you ‘medicine’ unless you first empty your pockets?”
so true.
hahahahaha. No shit. Pats on the back and trite little truisms, yet still they ignore the evidence and put their trust in the flim-flam man.
Open your eyes. All of you, people go on blaming each other, about right and wrong, fact and fiction, Just take a look at the history of the world, just about every great scientist has received persecution for their beliefs and findings.
All of you with your all so mighty facts, and truths, need to remember one thing.
You are either apart of the solution or apart of the problem. And arguing over where you are is not getting anything useful or productive done.
You want to fight over something, Fight to save our dying planet, Fight to save what precious little is left of our natural world. Work together to find solutions. So much creativity, so much potential, all wasted on the need to prove a point.
We are not going to solve anything unless we have a method that works. And that is science. All the wonderful stuff we enjoy is because of science.
How can stress be the cause of 85% of all dis-ease? It must clearly be the cause of all dis-ease. Whether it’s physical (from the environment i.e. over sunning one’s self or smoking cigarettes, drinking contaminated water) emotional (trauma internalized) or mental (beliefs creating a negative plecebo); it’s all stress. The body’s response to any of these stressors many be to mutate genes and DNA, create imbalances and chronic illness, or not react at all.
As creatures living in different bodies coming from different backgrounds and upbringings we all have varying thresholds for the different stresses that we encounter in any given moment.
Most everything I’ve read in these comments has been an attempt to make all of humankind fit one mold, and no set of creatures on earth fit one mold for that creature. That’s what makes the Universe so amazing. So many of it’s components which look like the others are different, in some way, however small and these small differences or large differences are what make it impossible to predict what will happen if Jane smokes cigarettes and John never does and still John gets lung cancer and Jane lives to 120 years old smoking a pack a day. It happens.
There is no actual right or wrong in the Universe, everything just “is”. Neither you, Michael, or Andreas know what will work or what is appropriate for another human being. It’s all theory that will resonate for some and not for others. I support both of you in putting your beliefs out into the world in whatever way you each choose to do so, it is the only way others will find you and draw their own conclusions.
Oh, what mush. You don’t seem to have a discerning, discriminating bone in your body. And you know what, you really don’t have to because hard working scientists are dragging you on their backs your whole life.
What the hell is it with the commenters who have such “open-minds” that their brains fall out?
All of you with your all so mighty facts, and truths, need to remember one thing.
You are either apart of the solution or apart of the problem.
No, you’re either a part of the solution or part of the particulate.
There is no actual right or wrong in the Universe, everything just “is”. Neither you, Michael, or Andreas know what will work or what is appropriate for another human being. It’s all theory that will resonate for some and not for others.
Gee, if only there were some way to tell if what you propose will actually be of benefit to others. Some kind of testing or analysis, mebbe. With quantifiable results, mayhaps. Wouldn’t that be a humdinger? Then, when someone like Michael comes along and provides evidence that what you propose is not legitimate, you could pull up all the data to show how you’ve tested said proposal, and here’s the results.
Ignorance is bliss. Keep up your arrogant point of view Michael. You poor guy probably never gets a good lay from a decent woman. Dude, I feel truly sorry for your fat ass.
Puuhhh, this had to come out. It’s unbearable to read comments from such an idiot.
OUT
What’s the matter, Marco, substance stings? You want a little of the smary balm that the prime quack peddles? So you can be greased all over with your fuzzy feel good quackery?
Michael, you sound very much like the undergrad you are. Grow up and try to have fun doing it….instead of being so full of yourself that you miss the best part of youth: Discovery!
This prime quack’s quote mining Selye shows what a heap of disgusting slime he is. Just because we do not abuse the findings of Selye (how about eutress, moron?), he thinks we do not know about them.
And you, Maria, sounds like your brain has fallen out of your ‘open’ mind.
Yeah! I wish I could sound more like the “medical intuitive” that has little to no post-secondary education! And I really should have been so excited when I discovered that cancer is not a disease!
Oh, and AIDS. Moritz doesn’t think AIDS is a disease.
This Michael Hawkins needs mental help. This is my last post. What a waste of time and energy. What an arrogant, uneducated, cocky, opinionated piece of work you are.
He must be working for someone who pays him to discredit alternative medicince as I can hardly imagine such a low level of intelligence, especially from anybody claiming to go to post secondary education.
What’s the matter, Marco baby, run out of that smarmy balm that the prime quack peddles? Run out and waste your money and get some, so you can keep on being taken for a fool.
Hawkins! SHUT UP….just shut up.
It’s his blog, if you don’t like what he is writing then leave asshat.
Warning others of quacks is a public service, Michael Hawkins reminds me of James Randi.
Well done Michael.
This has to be the best response so far!
So full of science-based medicine, replete with references, and not a single logical fallacy.
What a complete waste of time and energy this young arrogant “student” demands. Maybe he didn’t get enough attention from his parents or maybe he was just bullied around in high school? To blatantly try to discredit a man like Mr. Moritz who has spend the majority of his life helping other people and has done so successfully is beyond any explanation.
Young man, get your life together and actually try to do something worthwhile. This whole blog makes you look like a very “kaputt” boy.
Being unable to face the truth is your problem, Klaus, not Michael’s
The arrogance of these clowns… to think that they know better than good, established medicine and science. What, if you wish it away, the cancer goes away? I have to pity anyone that falls for that crap, for I know very well what happens with that line of reasoning – why search out legitimate help, when you can help yourself?
These morons don’t talk about the tragedy that follows.
Moritz is quite simply EVIL.
That’s a perfectly apt way of describing a vulture who preys on cancer patients. Monsters like him should be locked away.
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What I find interesting here is that the majority of the Moritz supporters, while happy to point out the emotional content of Michael’s posts, have nothing but emotional content in their own. Michael, while annoyed at the rather dangerous folks who promote ridiculous “remedies” which can cost people their heath rather than help them, provides facts and a reasoned argument. Moritz misrepresents facts, and shifts goalposts. His supporters offer no facts at all.
Saying, “He helped me” doesn’t count: Provide documentation. And for all anyone here can tell, half of them are sock puppets. I don’t say that to demean actual individuals believing in Moritz, rightly or wrongly. If you are a real individual with your own opinion who came here of your own accord, the term doesn’t apply. But you have to come up with something better than. “Michael is just being mean.”
And as to the complaints that Michael hasn’t read all Moritz’s work, well, you haven’t even read the the posts here.
Wow i never knew the cultists learned how to use the internet.. +1 dudes, rock hard
Jebus christ, my brain is melting from the whining about michaels justified anger.
Cancer is not a fucking joke, AIDS is not a fucking joke.
It doesn’t matter if he sounds angry, what matters is that he backs his claims up with evidence. Moritz does not, but I guess it more important that he sounds nice, and pads you on the head.
@Laureen
you sound like the kind of girl that would rather give money to feel good, than to get better.
How much money would you give if I called you a darling? Got cancer or AIDS? don’t worry, all you need is a hug. Don’t very about evidence, I’ll talk nice and smile at you.
What the fuck is wrong with you people…
They are all staggeringly ignorant.
Many of them willfully so, it appears.
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Didn’t read all the bullwoo, or I think the ‘boiling acid’ in my stomach would’ve made me explode.
As an ex-nurse, who has cared for countless cancer patients, their partners, children, families and friends, I find it both loathesome and vile to, basically, blame the sufferer for their illness.
To actively make a financial windfall from the fear, suffering and desperation of such individuals, makes Moritz et al, in my humble opinion, an utterly contemptible, pondscum-sucking non-human.
I also worked on one of the first HIV/AIDS wards set up here in Oz, when the ignorance, fear and death toll were at their height. It is, sadly, indeed a disease, and a terrible one. To have creatures like this “medical intuitive” spouting rubbish, as well as those like the Pope saying condoms increase the incident of viral spread – I could almost wish they caught it themselves.
Almost.
In fact, it is so horrible, I can’t bring myself to wish it on even these souless profiteers.
My heart goes out to all those living with cancer, HIV/AIDS and other terminal illnesses. Please, I beg you, don’t be fooled by those who only wish to make money from you in your time of fear and doubt.
EDIT: The formatting (but not the content) of this post was changed to reflect the wishes of the poster below this.
Use paragraphs please people!
If you’d like others to read what you write at least try to make it readable.
Hey Michael,
As a recovered magical-thinker and former footsoldier in the ranks of the “worried well”, I can say that I was never more stressed and fearful than when I was constantly scrutinizing myself for “negativity”. Is this safe? Is there benzene in this? Are there nitrites in my bacon? Was I taking the right supplements? Am I being angry and negative? Am I meditating enough? I would sit in yoga class seething with anger at the stench coming from the hippy next to me while trying to look placid doing the downward dog.
And always, I was correcting people’s negative attitudes. Tutting over their choice of food or drink. Like everyone else in my spiritual circle, I had become a total pain-in-the-ass.
Most of Moritz’s supporters sound just like I used to, commenting on your “anger” and “negativity” and clutching their pearls (or magic stones).
Mockery and humor are the only weapons that work against Moritz and his ilk. Trust me, under their enlightened lavender auras, is the gnawing fear that their magical fairy world is fake.
If there were any justice in the world, scammers like Moritz would be compelled to prove their stuff works in rigorously controlled double blind clinical trials before selling it.
But, if you go to his website you’ll see the quack miranda warning. “this product is not intended to heal,treat diagnose or cure any disease or illness and this website is strictly for informational and entertainment purposes. ”
I haven’t looked but I’ll bet it’s there.
What is this non-sense about Cancer only affecting humans, stressed humans even.
Two words for AM and his minions: Veterinary Oncology.
The world is full of retards, and Moritz is just another one. It is quite clear he has invented everything he says, TO MAKE MONEY. For fucks sake people, wake up.
Michael, I congratulate you on gathering such an impressive collection of lunatics in one thread.
If someone truthfully could cure a massive range of ills with salts and (snake) oil, they would be lavished with international recognition, awards (humanitarian, financial & honorary), tenure for life in any academic setting of their choosing, book deals, and lasting respect. They would transform medicine and literally be the saviour of mankind. The whole world would laud them well beyond their own lifetime.
That’s if they could cure anything at all. Instead the likes of Moritz look more like quacks hawking bogus cures to woo woos.
The whole situation is actually repugnant. How low does someone have to sink to sell quack treatments and discourage someone from a conventional treatment to someone who may actually be dying?
Man, the woo lovers came out in droves for your post. Mortiz is an utter moron. I don’t see how you could think HIV isn’t contagious or a disease and think that way.
And to all you people who hat ‘big pharma’ – think about what you are saying. Yes, they have alot of money and they *gasp* charge for the medicine they manufacture! Big friggin deal! They spend millions – probably billions – on testing and developing these medicines, trying to find something that is both effective and safe (yes, I know sometimes they don’t always work as or are safe as planned, but to think that is intentional is just plain wrong – if that happens it generally costs them money, so it is in their best interest to make them safe and effective).
In contrast, your Mortiz idiot comes up with his ideas or takes them from elsewhere, probably does little (most likely no professional) testing; and then tries to make a buck of them.
So you could try medicines that cost money and have been through exhaustive testing, shown by clinical trials to be effective; or you could try treatments and cures that also cost money but haven’t gone trough rigorous testing to determine if they are effective (do what they say they do) and safe (I’ve seen ‘woo’ books that are more expensive than my co-pay and the cost of my antibiotics combined)
Which would you choose?
Tally,
1) Moritz has wordpress remove Michael’s blog.
2) Moritz threatens Michael with a lawsuit.
So who is threatening here? Who is acting like “Big Pharma”?
Pffft….
Confusing ain’t it. The prime quack apparently does not really mean it when he blathers, be well, to Michael, otherwise he would not cause him such stress, now would he?
Michael, how dare you show emotions such as anger when all sweet innocent Andreas is doing is targeting the most vulnerable to line his deserving pockets. He can provide ROCKS for goodness sake, whereas all you distribute is truth, truth? I can find that anywhere, rocks however do not grow on trees. So what if Andreas shortens the lifespan of a loving mother and deprives a family of it’s newest child?, his webshite carries a clear disclaimer stating that he is under no obligation to provide anything of worth or any verifiable facts whatsoever, how dare you question this purveyor of hope to the hopeless?
From the Mowretz site;
“…The author is not intending to provide any medical advice or offer a substitute thereof, and makes no warranty whatsoever, whether expressed or implied, with respect to any product, device or therapy.”
Yep my doctor has a sign in his office that sez the same thing.
Yes that whole “do no harm” oath that so called “real doctors” take just muffles the positive energies that flow from the terminally ill wallet to the good Intuitive’s bank account
Michael, like Orac, like Ben Goldacre, like Steven Novella (all real medical doctors) and Simon Singh the journalist, you are a hero for our times.
[...] Moritz recently got WordPress to pull Michael Hawkin’s blog because his post on Moritz’s quackery has good google ranking. And WordPress was wimpy enough to succumb to this bullying. Well then, lets see how many law suits [...]
I would like to point out that Mr. Moritz talks with Merlin. Yes that one.
Perhaps we should ask Mr. Morits where Camelot lies.
see his site. http://www(dot)ener-chi.com/sacred.htm
Oops, my comment below should have been in reply to this, as the quote is taken from your link!
“Like so many kids my age when I was growing up, I used to believe in these fantastic tales, but had no idea that one day I would become a wizard myself.”
- Andreas Moritz
In light of the fact that he wrote this on his own website, is it libel or slander to say this man is bat-shit crazy?
Must I say this man SEEMS batshit crazy to protect myself from a lawsuit?
[...] but I’ve essentially deleted it in protest of WordPress’ inexcusably craven response to cancer quack Andreas Moritz‘ attempt at intimidating critic Michael Hawkins into [...]
I now need an antacid after reading the squeamishness-inducing woo-woo bullshit from all the Moritz supporters.
Seriously, people, this is REALITY, not a fantasy book. Magic and magical thinking doesn’t fix shit. Science does.
Oh contaire!
Magic fixes a quack’s bank balance.
Homeopathy cures both a very mild thirst, as well as the overstuffed wallet syndrome.
Moritz and his ilk cure that pesky condition called life.
I bought Andreas’ book and rather liked it. I since bought 2 more of his books. I think he knows what he’s talking about. I would like it to be made public that I am an Andreas sympathiser and loyalist
Well – don’t worry. Many people have some secret perversion. Usually they keep quiet about them though.
Is there anything to be proud of about being a sympathiser and loyalist to someone who appears to be an anti-science charlatan? Strange confession.
Do you know he gets all his medical “knowledge” from MERLIN????
I will ROFL forever over that.
“Like so many kids my age when I was growing up, I used to believe in these fantastic tales, but had no idea that one day I would become a wizard myself.”
- Andreas Moritz
In light of the fact that he wrote this on his own website, is it libel or slander to say this man is bat-shit crazy?
Must I say this man SEEMS batshit crazy to protect myself from a lawsuit?
He charges $350 to speak his special Merlin given words to you – and cure you by their higher level vibration (“letters of the ancient language vibrate at a much higher level than our modern languages”).
That’s nice then. He’s very fortunate that this works down a telephone too!
How can anyone who is stupid enough to believe this quackery actually have managed to earn the $350 it costs?
Isn’t it funny how people always think someone knows what he is talking about only when all that he says confirms your own deeply-held pin-headed ideas? I say again, anecdotes are not evidence!
[...] at face value. I wonder when WordPress.com is going to take the blog down because of this post, Andreas Moritz is a Stupid, Dangerous Man. You can see an example of Mr. Moritz’s stupidity and cupidity in his comment, the very first [...]
[...] NaturalNews.com (you may recall Mike Adams, whose mind snapped under the weight of our criticism). Michael Hawkins wrote up an angry rebuttal to Moritz, as did I. He’s not a good [...]
michael hawkins is a pea-brained idiot. Moritz should stop talking to him and the other posters who are trying to draw him in to their obnoxious game. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone paid this guy to do it. The health information Mr. Moritz presents in all of his books is comprehensive, exhaustively researched and proven effective. What I am saying on this blog is pointless for the most part though, because Hawkins and the other negative posters (who are all probably the same guy!!),are all acting like little children with their fingers in their ears. Their numbed-out brains are looking for a fight because they don’t look within. So sad. But Mr. Moritz would do well to not play in to this fear-filled folly.
mr. moritz’s research is at best, exaustive. Proven, no! Peer reviewed beyond collaberative efforts, no! If moritz wants to end this “game” as you may call it, than he should attend medical school, gain actual credebility so that way if his practices are found to be dangerous in the future, he may be publicly reprimanded. Such is the road for anyone who understands personal responsibilty. Also, don’t kid yourself thinking Mike H. could give so many different responses. He’s but one man, and you my “friend” are in error refering to him as pea-brained. Also, if it weren’t for Mr. moritz’s own action to trouble M.H. with threats of litigation, this “game” would not have begun.
I contracted a so called terminal disease several years ago and quickly found out that medical establishment is nothing more than pawn scum for big pharma. They have zero understanding of how the body works. (period) It’s a multi billion dollar industry thats killing far far more than its curing.
So I started into the jungle of alternative health which believe me is full of snares and traps and charlatans. I spent hundreds of hours in research almost like a quest to find God or the holy grail, as my very life depended upon it.
So from all that research I have a list of the top people in the field of natural healing, who have the greatest understanding of the true nature of healing and how are body’s really work.
#1 David Jubb
#2 Andreas Moritz
#3 Gabriel Cousins
#4 Dr Richard Anderson
#5 Daniel Reid.
There’s a few more I can mention but you’ll get the idea if you read and study the books written by these authors/ investigators, and as most of you will or already know someone who has contracted one of these illnesses, I’d highly recommend following the instruction giving therein by one of the names above.
As far as this guy Michael Hawkins, I have no time to read any of your ramblings, your obviously a tool of high degree and if everyone just ignores him he’ll go away. He’s an attention junkie.
I have read 3 books by Andreas and believe him to be very kind and compassionate and very well educated and versed in many true healing modalities.
What is the saying. “never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”
Michael, cease and desist, before the hot coals of your karma descend upon your head!
“As far as this guy Michael Hawkins, I have no time to read any of your ramblings, your obviously a tool of high degree and if everyone just ignores him he’ll go away. He’s an attention junkie.”
I find these kind of posts highly amusing, and depressing.
PRESENT FACTS, when it’s your personal sadstory#23455 it’s just embarrassing
“Michael, cease and desist, before the hot coals of your karma descend upon your head!”
Hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH, that was great!!!
Yeah, he’s a tool of high degree alright–a lot higher than any of you other nutjob tools!!! We’re all tools, some of us are just more effective at getting the job done than others.
Oh, and I love how all the quack-supporters are saying all the Michael-supporting posts are by Michael himself. Classic case of denial, in hopes of persuading sad self that there can’t REALLY be that many people against them. Wake up and smell the coffee!!! These quacks are KILLING people. Study the facts and statistics. You may be the exception to the case, but that does not negate the overall majority results.
[...] WordPress, in an act of pure cowardice, obliged Moritz initially, although the site appears to be up again under a different name. The specific reason that Moritz stated as his reason for complaining to WordPress was–well, [...]
I own a couple of Andreas books and I love them all! I used to have allergy for about 15 years and I tried a lot of different detoxes before..nothing really helped . It was getting worse until last year it sky rocket and I ‘ve had skin rush or hives or something all over my body. I felt really really bad, it was very itchy, I couldn’t sleep I couldn’t do anything and I ‘ve had it for almost 2 months. Then it was somehow ok and after my lunch “out” it was back. My doctor said he never saw anything like it before and I spent about $2000 just for lab work + about $500 for dermatology test ….with not improvement
I finely begun with “Miracle Cleanses”and it really helped me a lot! I did almost 10 cleanses so far and I’ll continue until my body is clean. It takes time and it is not easy because I am also watching my food between the ” cleanses” as I don’t want to put these “bad things” like MSG, artificial coloring….back into my body….so it is challenging but I feel much much better and I continue to feel better if I follow the recommendation from Andreas book’s.
I am sooo glad that I found Andreas. I love his work and I read his books over and over again!!
Thank you Andreas!!!
So basically you had some testing done but weren’t cured (which, why would you think you would be cured by having lab tests? That doesn’t even make sense., abandoned that and have joined Moreitz’s kook wagon, which you’ve been on for 10 “cleanses” and…still aren’t “clean”. So, you abandon modern medicine when you are still being tested (presumably because it took too long) and haven’t even been prescribed anything and then buy product after product from Moritz, believing that “wait…something will happen…eventually…” is more valid than real medicine….
Wow. I don’t even know what to say. This is just…deeply ignorant and credible. I’m a bit ashamed to be in the same species as you.
Daniela,
you also cut and pasted that comment on skeptico’s site.
http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2010/02/andreas-moritz-cancer-cures-quack.html?cid=6a00d83451df0c69e201310f2bb210970c#comment-6a00d83451df0c69e201310f2bb210970c
yes, I did! And aslo a couple if different sites. Is that wrong?
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[...] by Michael Hawkins PZ isn’t the only one who gets mail. First, here’s what I sent to Moritz a couple days ago. I have no idea why you would listen to Maloney about contacting me. Had he not [...]
[...] recently, Michael Hawkins a University of Maine student ran a blog called For the sake of science. Hawkins tone could be at [...]
For some real information about how well conventional medicine is doing in curing cancer I suggest the Seer database. Have a browse, and a play with the Fast Stats. http://seer.cancer.gov/
” The overall 5-year relative survival rate for 1999-2005 from 17 SEER geographic areas was 66.1%.”
For an excellent discussion about alternative treatments for cancer, and the best information about their efficacy try Dr Andrew Moran’s website. http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/index.htm
For those still convinced that diet, supplements and positive thinking can cure cancer, I suggest you look into the clinical trials of the Gonzalez protocol for pancreatic cancer that did much worse than conventional medicine. http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/09/the_gonzalez_protocol_worse_than_useless.php
And who are we calling a “quack”?
Sorry, that should be Dr P Moran, I don’t know where I got the ‘Andrew’ from,
I have read the book by Moritz named “Timeless Secrets of Health & Rejuvenation” and I think it is a great read. I agree with over 90% of what he says.
In any event I certainly would try a natural, non-invasive therapy prior to expensive pharmaceutical drugs with documented adverse effects.
The book is really about “prevention” of illness, a pro-active approach. I know this is a very alien concept in modern-day Western medicine.
Western medicine will always be the “last resort” for me. But by following the guidelines in A.M.’s book hopefully I wont have to walk in to a USA hospital for the rest of my life.
But if I do I will probably see some of these scientists who have been posting here sitting in the hospital waiting room. The ones who think it’s normal to catch a cold and a flu every year.
Ahahahaha! Oh, that’s a winner. So now Moritz has cured the common cold and the flu, all with one hand tied behind his back.( Obviously not his writing hand.)
I, too have discovered the means to a cold/flu-free existence; It’s called being a hermit. Easy money.
I agree with Mr. Moritz, I do not catch cold every year!!
If you drink vitamin C in natural fruit every day you may can catch free, as an example.
[...] Posted on June 27, 2010 by Michael Hawkins Over at FTSOS’ sister blog Without Apology, Paula B. has posted an excellent response to Andreas Moritz’s bullshit and lies. I was first intrigued by Moritz’s AMAZING LIVER [...]
Andreas,
I commend you for your patience in response to the unfair and harsh comments thrown at you. You are an incredible person and I have a great deal of respect for you and what you write about.
To conventional medicine, cancer is simply a “business”. More will realize this as they open their minds even a little bit. What a barbaric society we are. I just can’t believe how wrong western conventional medicine has everything.
This Michael guy and other commentors on this blog are so full of anger and ignorance. I suspect the day will inevitably come where their blinders will be removed. Or hopefully at least lifted ever so slightly.
Best wishes to you Andreas!
Stacy
YOU NEED TO BOOST YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM TO BEAT CANCER NOT DESTROY IT WITH CHEMO AND RADIATION.
CHEMO AND RADIATION WOULD KILL HEALTHY PEOPLE, AND USUALLY BRINGS MORE CANCER AFTER TEN YEARS,
THAT’S WHAT THEY CALL A CURE!!!
THE DRUG COMPANIES A MAKING A FORTUNE OUT OF CHEMO WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO PATENT PARTS OF TURMERIC (CUMIN), GRAPEFRUIT (TO ALLOW LESS DRUGS THROUGH THE LIVER) VITAMIN D, BROCCOLI EXTRACTS ETC
Hi Andy I agree with you. My friend has breast cancer and her treatments cost $80,000 per round. Most of it is picked up by her insurance company so we know why our country won’t let EVERYBODY have insurance. Don’t you think this kind of money is a hugh TEMPTATION to doctors and pharm co’s? Not only does chemo supress your immune system but it takes out many healthy cells in the process. Look at the side effects of chemo. One of the side effects is “causes cancer”. HUH? Why would I take this? To exchange one cancer for the other? Big Medicine feels like Big Oil to me.
Holly
I just recently became aware of Andreas Moritz, however, have been miserable sick starting the second year I served in the US Military. Meanwhile, I was pumped up with all types of medication and shots, my condition got worse by the day. Finally, Uncle Sam thought I was not fit for service after 12.5 years and permanently retired me. I continued in the sick state state, continually getting worse, to the point of developing diabetes. Then it dawned on me, I was being cared for by the extention of our Military, the VA. They were pumping all kinds of meds into me as well. I blew up to 170 lbs and was given additional drugs for diabetes. The first time I took the drug, I thought I was going to die, started shaking uncontrolably, raided my fridge and gained 15 lbs in less than 10 days. That’s when I decided I was going to take charge. I refused all meds, gradually changed my eating habits, last year, started drinking bottled water, got away from flouride, changed my soap and shampoo to organic ones, stopped consuming anything pre processed just to find that my body knew all along what to do if I gave it the correct tools. I am now 123 lbs ideal weight for my height and age (49) feel much better than I have when being drugged left and right (it took 5 years to get here), my diabetes is well under control without any effort (I am now very used to eating natural wholefoods). All that wihout being on a diet! I am not completely where I want to be yet, but am well on my way, no thanks to the medical establishment and no thanks to big pharma who nearly killed me with it’s poisons. I haven’t had a cold since I can’t remember when (I stopped the yearly flu shots 10 years ago after having retired).
I am greatful for Andreas Moritz’s of the world – they help those who are out of touch with their natural instincts.
Puha there are so many paiful hurrifc things going on, people who are greedy and abuse animals and nature in a way that might run this wonderful amacing planet down..and then you use hard primitive and negative energy to a man who has a way of speeking his truth that gives hope to so many, well I better say who i meen;Andreas Moritz and the one about his dead mother; saying that Andreas M says that it is his mothers own fault she died and that makes the man agressive as a child ; But it is so;You dum ass it is your mothers own fault and it is not.So how about that. Andreas M gives a lot of ways how canser can come. I get so desperate when I see how stupid we people are and act, and you people here that use hard energy to attack A.M stupid ignorant assholes; There are so much darkness on the planet for vast amounts of animals . Nature is in danger while the upperhand are with people who dosent care. Lots of children lost forever beause of people who dosent care, go for them….Not one of the men that are for for the light. Somehow you do care and that is betters than nothing. Shame on you ,I know my spelling sucks but it is not my language sorry V.D AND I am greatful for Andreas Moutrtz too
Andreas Moritz” Little learning is very dangerous when you try to apply it on living beings. The knowledge should be in your blood , in your senses…you learnt something here and without knowing what exactly it is, started applying it for your benefit. Once I tried to contact you but your pride or whatever it may be stopped you from replying. I wrote about LDL”
And the man who wrote this article originally and also started this blog also had very little knowledge. So which one is the more dangerous?
Both are partially wrong and both are partially right in their arguments.
Let’s simply agree to disagree and try to make truly individual informed decisions for ourselves when and if the time comes when we really need it. Working together is less dangerous afterall and we’re all in charge of our own bodies despite what any so-called experts (allopathic and naturopathic) claim. Every one has the right to decide for themselves who they want to put in charge of their health without being ridiculed or judged by anyone else. Peace.
So much talk about stupidity and dangerous minds. Don’t just talk only like most of the world class politicians always do.Get down to actions and you will know how many amazing changes you can do to your health and life. Its easy to read Andreas’s books and hurled remarks when you are not ready to go the natural way. When get down to practising it(eventhough its not easy in the beginning) you won’t be so quick in disagreeing. He has his way although I may not agree with all but I have to thank him for helping us to find the solution here in our Alternative Clinics.People in my country believe that hospitals are the ultimate answer and modern medicine is the only antidote. Fifty years down history lane and today more and more are turning away for other remedies because death rates and failures are high in hospitals. Most who came to us at the Alternative Centres are either critical or in despair. We worked very hard and success rate is extremely high. Unfortunately, recurrence takes place once patients are exempted from therapy for long periods of time. Cancer patients cannot afford to allow it to recur as we discover they seldom stand a second chance.It was at this crossroad of looking for new answers that we stumbled upon A.M’s books. Apprehensive at first but we tried it on our own initially. Intrigued by the results, we went on to advise our patients on diets, nutrition,cleanses , causes rather than symptoms……….Never looked back ever since. I am an ardent reader of Dr.Norman Walker’s books. Now, I have another doctor who I am proud of and grateful to. Thanks Andreas from all of us here.
lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll you people are all nutbars.
You guys who put down an outside opinion on health matters must also be Christians…
After all, before Jesus Christ fell on the scene 2,000 years ago, by their belief, every single human being went to “hell”. Now, there have been humans on Earth for many, MANY more years than Christianity, and I seriously doubt they all went to this fictitious (My Opinion) “hell”.
It is ok to believe what you like. That’s what makes us all learn and grow. But to put others down for their beliefs in this life, especially those well intentioned to helping others, even slightly skewed as you may view it, is a mark of your own character. History remembers these types for what they were, bitter.
Andreas Moritz is one of many in this time spreading the word. You ALL are missing the point to it all. There is nothing in this world that knows your body better than your own body. To think otherwise is human vanity. You are what you eat. Everything you do in life, and put into your body, has consequences, both good and bad. Your body is designed to prolong life, and every cell is indeed programmed in this fashion. To think otherwise is extreme lunacy.
You cannot be angry about loved ones passing before you knew of any of this. That is internalizing. It is not your fault, nor anyone else, for this occurring. People die. We all have our day coming. We can chose to spend this life in any way we chose.
There was a time that the greatest minds in the world were put “against the wall” for saying the Earth was round. Persecuted for their opinion…turns out they were right. Only took a century or 2 to acknowledge it. How many died at the powers that be hand for this declaration? For what?
Remember the Salem with trials?
Let us not forget the other “tyrants” of history, who fought to suppress innovation and free thinkers. Killed to keep people locked into their frame of thought.
Today, there are other “tyrants” tugging at the strings. It is up to each and every one of us to form our own opinion in this life on these matters. Who are any of us to put down anyone else for their opinions on anything? Just as I am free to type this up, and add it to this nonsense, you are just as equally free to rebut, but in the end, who really “wins”?
I, for one, support Andreas Moritz in his pursuit of healing thru the body, mind and spirit. This is a man with a plethora of knowledge in the art of healing, and an education to match. He does not require mine, nor anyone else, praises to continue on with his life’s work. His patients, and those who benefit from his advice, are the ONLY ones who know for sure the benefits of his teachings. Those who berate and cut down his ideas, well, they know not of what they speak.
You absolutely cannot speak intelligently on anything in this life unless you have actually experienced it first hand. Those who do such silly things are uneducated, or scared.
For all those medical doctors who have spent years in higher education, to see someone of this caliber stand up against everything they think they knew, can very well be interpreted as an insult, if that’s your personality. The more open minded of this group, well, they would assimilate this knowledge into their already growing ideas and use it to HELP others.
As for the rocks…
The power of the mind is unparalleled by any drug available today. If you truly believe it’s going to work….it will. If you don’t, even the best drugs in the world can’t help you.
Peace and love.
Well said, Justan. Here’s to the open-minded!
Thanks, I needed some new blogging material.
http://forthesakeofscience.com/2012/02/12/andreas-moritz-has-stupid-followers/
I am sorry that more people are not familiar with Ayurveda Medicine. If MODERN SCIENCE would stop cutting off the ancient knowledge and combine it with what they are learning some amazing things might happen with health.
Anyone who can not or has not looked at the emotional aspect of illness is leaving the person untreated if they do not help the patient deal with the emotions.
Nobody has all the answers especially those who will not look at other ideas.
Michael B, Michael Hawkins, and frog69–looks like the same person under different names….same poisonous writing stile…
I knew I shouldn’t have spelled things like “style” correctly so much.
Big man, nit picking something as small as grammar. I don’t need to point out what you are. You do plenty of it yourself, with these silly accusations, then pointing out spelling errors. You’ll have to excuse the world if they are not up to your standards. It must get lonely up there in the clouds, altho I bet your sinuses are ok, with all the humidity and all…
Re: Justin Observer-First of all, Moritz is not “up in the clouds” as you stated simply because his spelling and grammar are correct. Most educated folks have excellent grammar/spelling. Tons to be exact. You are the one in the minority. I suggest you read more or at best, use spell check or a dictionary. Employers frown on resumes with grammatical or spelling errors. Big time. In my opinion, (and I’m certainly entitled to it as much as you are), is you are not enlightening the world with your knowledge anymore than you say Moritiz is and perhaps, less. If your totally scientific viewpoint were correct, it would appear that more cures for specific cancers would already be available at this point.
The mind/emotion/body connection is a proven fact particularly when it comes to disease. One simply cannot separate this vital connection anymore than one can stop breathing. To doubt this fact, I feel, is to doubt yourself. Disease does not exist in a vacuum including cancer. It’s an extremely complex set of circumstances much like the perfect storm. Which is why one person with the exact same diet, exercise routine, and other lifestyle factors can become sick and their peer will not.
Until there are proven cures out there for cancers, one must strive to be open to all vewpoints rather than close-minded and rigid to just one.
-MJ Cannon
Last line typo correction: *viewpoint
You have misunderstood my reply, dear. I was not referring to Andreas Moritz as the one with his nose in the clouds. I was referring to Mr. Nit-Picky above (Michael Hawkins), for his unneeded pointing out that a previous poster misspelled “style” (poster spelled it stile).
You are in effect agreeing with me with your entire reply.
Think about this. I saw a thing the other day. The Susan G. Komen race for the cure. Now, I have seen these pink ribbons as long as I can remember. You’d think, by now with the multiple BILLIONS of dollars raised, that there would be some form of successful allopathic treatment other than poisoning the body or mastectomies. I mean, they got a “cure” for damn near everything else these days, but cancer? Of course not. If they cured cancer, who would profit? They wouldn’t have these “fundraisers” to line their pockets any longer. Sad as it is, blind trust is a dangerous practice. It is up to each and every one of us to take responsibility for our own health, instead of putting all our faith in the decision making of someone else, for nothing less than the MD next to his/her name. Food for thought.
Peace and Love.
I am so sorry. Please accept my apologies. Don’t feel so well today and missed that you were replying to Mr. Hawkins or whatever his name really is. I can’t get psyched either with the pink ribbon campaign and other walks because, like you said, who’s really lining their pockets with a great deal of that money? We totally agree! I’ve watched too many of my family members and friends die horrible, agonizing deaths due to chemo and radiation all the while being given hope by the medical profession who knew all along…who still know…no hope this way…no cure.
Thank you for your kind and patient reply instead of sending me an outraged and insulting one that most of us are all too familiar with in this type of forum.
God bless.
M.J. Cannon
The possibility that your average esteemed physician has virtually wasted his entire career pursuing a blind alley can be a bit threatening, hence Mr. Hawkins comments on Dr Moritz. At least he LOOKS like a person who is qualified to speak on the subject of health! Unlike these “Physicians” who walk around on crutches and get their bypass surgeries, then like quietly goes in search of relief outside their own community when push comes to shove. You MD’s know nothing of health, only disease… most will go to the grave without admitting that, to do otherwise causes too much cognitive dissonance.
Cognitive dissonance: Cognitive dissonance is a discomfort caused by holding conflicting cognitions (e.g., ideas, beliefs, values, emotional reactions) simultaneously. In a state of dissonance, people may feel surprise, dread, guilt, anger, or embarrassment.[1] The theory of cognitive dissonance in social psychology proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by altering existing cognitions, adding new ones to create a consistent belief system, or alternatively by reducing the importance of any one of the dissonant elements.[1] An example of this would be the conflict between wanting to smoke and knowing that smoking is unhealthy; a person may try to change their feelings about the odds that they will actually suffer the consequences, or they might add the consonant element that the smoking is worth short term benefits. A general view of cognitive dissonance is when one is biased towards a certain decision even though other factors favour an alternative.